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‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement[W:25]

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It has to do with the nonsensical pining for the rights one the palestiniens gave up by those attacks. Those prior demands lost their legitimacy.

Your opinion that something "lost its legitimacy" lacks a basis in fact

Also, the board didn't show my link when I tried posting it three times previously, but hopefully this will straighten things out
 
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When one launches strikes which inflict far more collateral damage than damage to the terrorists, and which strengthens the terrorists exponentially by providing them with an influx of new recruits, then there is a problem with one's strategy.

The Israelis are intentionally targeting whole areas and don't seem to much care who is in the blast radius-- a rather large problem in an urban environment. Frankly, there's not a whole lot of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and really not giving a **** about the fact that there are civilians in the area.

And the rockets and mortars are a pinprick in comparison to what the IDF is tossing around, yet the two sides seem to have the same idea in mind.
 
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Are you bothered that too many Palestinians were hurt or are you bothered not enough Israelis?

And what strikes were "incredibly indiscriminate"?

And do you know WHY the 2014 conflict occurred?
 
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When one launches strikes which inflict far more collateral damage than damage to the terrorists, and which strengthens the terrorists exponentially by providing them with an influx of new recruits, then there is a problem with one's strategy.

When terrorists use human shields there will be deaths. As Hamas intends.... Hamas helped determine how many civilians died. And you KNOW this to be true.


I took the liberty of bolding the BS and hyperbole.

And the rockets and mortars are a pinprick in comparison to what the IDF is tossing around, yet the two sides seem to have the same idea in mind.

You have never been on the receiving end of a mortar or rocket fire.... Have you?
 
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Are you bothered that too many Palestinians were hurt or are you bothered not enough Israelis?

And what strikes were "incredibly indiscriminate"?

And do you know WHY the 2014 conflict occurred?

You forgot to mention the "noncombatants" part of "Palestineans" buddy.

Blowing the hell out of thousands of civilians is pretty much textbook indiscriminate strikes buddy.

And yes, I do know why.
 
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When there are mass civilian casualties the terrorists will gain immense amounts of additional support. As the Israelis know full well.....yet they keep using the same old tactics which cause a slaughter.

That's a nice opinion about the facts I stated buddy. Too bad it doesn't actually change anything.

Yes, I'm sure mortar and rocket fire is very scary and not much fun to be on the receiving end. That doesn't change the fact that it's still a pinprick compared to what the IDF nonchalantly tosses around;
 
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You forgot to mention the "noncombatants" part of "Palestineans" buddy.

Blowing the hell out of thousands of civilians is pretty much textbook indiscriminate strikes buddy.

And yes, I do know why.

Vague answers = No answers.

WHY did the 2014 Gaza action occur?
 
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Failure to understand why human sheids tend to result in disproportionate civilian casualties appears to be your problem.

Hamas CHOSE sites that would provoke the maximum outrage from those not understanding that point.

Like you.

Hamas CHOSE to launch rockets from a hospital yard for example so they could wave the bloody shirt and scream that The IDF was "targeting hospitals".

Would you rather Hamas has free reign to launch daily ACTS OF WAR at the civilians of Israel?


And mortar fire and rockets aren't an effing pinprick. Anyone who understands anything about artillery will tell you that as could thousands of recipients of Purple Hearts.

And add to that the Hamas attacks are targeting innocent civilians.
 
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That statement makes no sense.

One other thing Tigerrace needs to learn to accept. War is hell and innocents do sometimes get caught in the crossfire.
 
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And.....it's a habit of constantly seizing more and more land, and then pretending like they are "liberating it". With, of course, history being suitably altered to fit the narrative.

How much net land has Israel gained since 1967?
 
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It's extremely idiotic to refer to the act of seizing the Sinai as a wrong move on Israel's side that "led" to the war in 1973 and almost "led" to its destruction. What led to the war in 1973 was the willingness to have Israel destroyed, the same thing that led to the wars in 1967 and 1948.

It takes a very special mindset to convince oneself of such twisted "facts" and one must really be driven by a strong willingness to stand with evil to deny history in such way and embrace ignorance deliberately and at this point it's obvious it's deliberate and that you don't truly believe any of that nonsense you're promoting. Hell, you're calling Israel's acts "land grabs" when you still claim that Jordan taking a land that isn't theirs is alright. You're literally calling something that you believe to be right, wrong. Twisted.
 
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This post is truly the perfect definition of a meaningless, nonsensical post. There's nothing in it that actually replies to anything in the post it is supposedly replying to. You're failing at the basics of arguing at this point.
 
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I am actually very good at that. The only conclusion from the position that Jews must not defend themselves when targeted for murder is that one believes they must die. No one expects a confession but don't expect zero confrontation for such vile position either.
 

The fact that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and the fact that the US will locate their embassy in that capital should have no effect on whether peace negotiation will take place or not. The negotiations are solely dependent upon the two sides WANTING to negotiate.

Now...if one side wants to raise a ruckus and start violence because the US is locating their embassy in the Israeli capital, then the Israelis will need to deal with that violence. I suggest they deal with it harshly.

What I find pathetic is that other, so-called democratic countries are willing to roll over because one side in the conflict might get upset and start trying to kill people because the US is making this move. That is akin to negotiating with hostage takers. It indicates those countries are weak.
 
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Would you rather Hamas has free reign to launch daily ACTS OF WAR at the civilians of Israel?

Apparently yes that's exactly what he's been arguing for. All this nonsense about "it serves the terrorists" (no it doesn't) and "it creates civilian casualties" (the terrorists create them) is merely a diversion from that position.
 
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Re: ‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement

Your opinion that something "lost its legitimacy" lacks a basis in fact

Also, the board didn't show my link when I tried posting it three times previously, but hopefully this will straighten things out

Nope. It didn't.
 
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No, I am saying that fantasizing that you are the "original inhabitants" is not correct.

Fantasizing? how are we fantasizing? Jews were the majority in Jerusalem almost thought the entire civilized history, long before first Zionist "fantasizers" came here.


Well if they are all dead surely the Hebrews have the earliest claim to the land, hence Jerusalem was liberated.
 
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