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It has to do with the nonsensical pining for the rights one the palestiniens gave up by those attacks. Those prior demands lost their legitimacy.
Take a moment and think....
If one targets the TERRORISTS and the TERRORISTS hide among the civilians you will have some collateral damage.
On the other hand the TERRORISTS are INTENTIONALLY targeting civilians.
A teensy weensy difference that appears lost on you.
Add to that the Israeli's don't fire rockets every day into Palestinian land. However in many cases the rockets and mortars were an everyday thing.
We've been over this before. In the 2014 conflict alone there were more than three thousand children killed and wounded. That's not a small sum, and trying to play the "but America" card does not absolve you of that. Hell, there were more kids and wounded in that conflict by Israeli strikes than Israeli casualties, both dead and wounded, civilian and military, total.
"Between 2,125[22] and 2,310[20] Gazans were killed and between 10,626[20] and 10,895[53] were wounded (including 3,374 children, of whom over 1,000 were left permanently disabled[54]). 66 Israeli soldiers, 5 Israeli civilians (including one child)[55] and one Thai civilian were killed[16] and 469 IDF soldiers and 261 Israeli civilians were injured.[19]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel–Gaza_conflict
People who use the "holy war" rational have no room to scream "you are being biased" ever, by the way.
Nice use of melodramatics but whether or not someone is "unbroken" is totally irrlevent, and considering how many of the first Israeli settlers came from the remnants of the European Jewish populations and were largely armed by European governments such as Czechoslovakia, it's also not entirely factual. Perhaps you should have included the people of the city in your very detailed armistice if you were particularly concerned about them being kicked out. As it was, the worst thing you can say is "they smashed up a few historical sites". And frankly, compared to the kind of atrocities which happened throughout the twentieth century, that's not even an issue.
You killed or crippled thousands of kids alone. The strikes are incredibly indiscriminate--- but hey, it's only "barbarians" right?
When one launches strikes which inflict far more collateral damage than damage to the terrorists, and which strengthens the terrorists exponentially by providing them with an influx of new recruits, then there is a problem with one's strategy.
The Israelis are intentionally targeting whole areas and don't seem to much care who is in the blast radius-- a rather large problem in an urban environment. Frankly, there's not a whole lot of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and really not giving a **** about the fact that there are civilians in the area.
And the rockets and mortars are a pinprick in comparison to what the IDF is tossing around, yet the two sides seem to have the same idea in mind.
Are you bothered that too many Palestinians were hurt or are you bothered not enough Israelis?
And what strikes were "incredibly indiscriminate"?
And do you know WHY the 2014 conflict occurred?
When terrorists use human shields there will be deaths. As Hamas intends.... Hamas helped determine how many civilians died. And you KNOW this to be true.
I took the liberty of bolding the BS and hyperbole.
You have never been on the receiving end of a mortar or rocket fire.... Have you?
You forgot to mention the "noncombatants" part of "Palestineans" buddy.
Blowing the hell out of thousands of civilians is pretty much textbook indiscriminate strikes buddy.
And yes, I do know why.
When there are mass civilian casualties the terrorists will gain immense amounts of additional support. As the Israelis know full well.....yet they keep using the same old tactics which cause a slaughter.
That's a nice opinion about the facts I stated buddy. Too bad it doesn't actually change anything.
Yes, I'm sure mortar and rocket fire is very scary and not much fun to be on the receiving end. That doesn't change the fact that it's still a pinprick compared to what the IDF nonchalantly tosses around;
That statement makes no sense.
And.....it's a habit of constantly seizing more and more land, and then pretending like they are "liberating it". With, of course, history being suitably altered to fit the narrative.
Israel occupied land it had no right to and directly caused another war, one which they came very close to losing, because of it. That "defensive occupation" didn't stand all that well against the Egyptians in 1973 now did it buddy. The fact remains that if Israel hadn't been so bent on constant land grabs, well, maybe there's no Yom Kippur War. Instead, Israeli overconfidence and arrogance nearly lead to their own destruction. Hmm.....where have we heard of that before?
More hysterical nonsense from you.
Except you absolutely do, despite the fact that you consider all Arabs to be nothing more than "barbarians." Which makes your claims that the Jordanians are "evil" a total nonstarter. You starting to figure reality out buddy?
Yes, your failing is both dumb, laughable and pathetic. Glad to see you accept that.
I've repeatedly spelled it out for you multiple times. Too bad you don't possess the mental backbone to comprehend it.
When a country uses tactics that only strengthen said terrorist group(i.e. air strikes into one of the most densely populated regions in the area) then that's a serious problem, and burying your head in the sand because "it's only "barbarian" civilians being killed" does not send a good message.
That reminds me..... when, exactly, is Israel going to join the fight against ISIS? Seems like all you've done is sit on the sidelines and watch, and vaguely mention something about "lending Egypt a hand". Which, of course, seems odd indeed.......unless, of course, having Syria and Iraq embroiled in chaos is more important to you than any old nasty terrorist group. Cynical, I know, but.....
And no, buddy, blasting random bystanders does not defend Jews in any way, shape, or form. All it does is ensure the terrorist groups will remain strong.
You aren't very good at drawing conclusions buddy.
‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement
Ahead of Trump's pronouncement, close U.S. allies such as Britain, France and Germany had criticized him and questioned the wisdom of such a move. German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said Tuesday that the pursuit of such policies by the Trump administration is why traditional U.S.-European ties have started to “crumble.”
“We all know the far-reaching impact this move would have,” Gabriel said. “Germany’s position on this issue remains unchanged: A solution to the Jerusalem problem can only be found through direct negotiations between both parties. Everything which worsens the crisis is counterproductive.”
In Russia, the Kremlin also joined the list of nations fearing that such a move will exacerbate tensions between Israel and Palestinians, saying that the situation could worsen as a result. It was one of the few times a Kremlin foreign policy goal has converged with that of most NATO member states.Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said the U.S. plan is “unlawful” and could have “irreversible consequences” in the region.
So, looks like Trump managed to unite the whole damn world against us this time.
I can't think of anything more likely to cause attacks than recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol or Israel.The only group that will happy with this is religious fanatics - including evangelicals around the world and right wing Israelis. I can't think of any group in the US who benefits by this other than the 'end is nigh' crowd pushing for the 3rd temple. What possible reason could he have for making this decision?
Right now I am betting a reversal will come - because this is ridiculous.
Would you rather Hamas has free reign to launch daily ACTS OF WAR at the civilians of Israel?
Your opinion that something "lost its legitimacy" lacks a basis in fact
Also, the board didn't show my link when I tried posting it three times previously, but hopefully this will straighten things out
No, I am saying that fantasizing that you are the "original inhabitants" is not correct.
And "assimilated" is a rather kind interpretation.....barring a source saying explicitly otherwise, and given the vehemence of the Old Testament in arguing against any sort of "assimilation" with other societies, I'd say "all dead" is a more likely result
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