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‘Armed Guards Will Throw Them Out’: CNN Airs Clip of Roger Stone Laying Out Plan to Invalidate Election Results

"legally" begs the question. He's talking about them not being "legally" appointed because of the cheating part. Which electors are "legal" is the question presented. To assume they are legal is to beg the question.
I assume they were legally appointed following the states correct processes. Whether they had been given the correct instructions is the contentious issue if you believe the big lie.
 
At the very time of the filming of said documentary, I truly believe that R Stone (among many others) felt that the coup would succeed making his documentary to be considered a masterpiece by the admiring MAGA f***s from DJT right down to honkytonk Jethro in Gatorhumpers, LA.

Americans in the millions would have been protesting peacefully in response to this theft. Including me

Its unbelievable that Stone and others thought this would just go by without so much as a whimper.

They really are idiots, truly dumbass in the first degree.
 
The long lines at voting time are a total joke.
Republicans have spent decades closing voting places and making sure voting is done on work days so it's as inconvenient as possible.
It's an effective poll tax for those who they want to prevent from voting.
 
I assume they were legally appointed following the states correct processes. Whether they had been given the correct instructions is the contentious issue if you believe the big lie.
They are elected, so whoever legitimately won the election should have their slate of electors appointed. So, if the election was not legitimate, then the electors are not legally appointed. They're illegally appointed.

In 2016, Democrats and Hillary Clinton routinely said the 2016 election was stolen, won by fraud through "interference" by Trump colluding with Russians, and that Trump was not a legitimate President. That is no less of a "big lie" than the Trump doing it in 2020.
 
The long lines at voting time are a total joke.
Republicans have spent decades closing voting places and making sure voting is done on work days so it's as inconvenient as possible.
There aren't long lines at voting places, generally speaking, particularly with half of voters now voting early or by mail.

Voting has always traditionally happened on work days, and has expanded in every state to include early voting, including weekends. It has become more convenient to vote over the past 30 years, by far.
 
They are elected, so whoever legitimately won the election should have their slate of electors appointed. So, if the election was not legitimate, then the electors are not legally appointed. They're illegally appointed.

In 2016, Democrats and Hillary Clinton routinely said the 2016 election was stolen, won by fraud through "interference" by Trump colluding with Russians, and that Trump was not a legitimate President. That is no less of a "big lie" than the Trump doing it in 2020.
Was there significant fraud in the states that attempted to send fake electors?
Sounds like he's talking about fighting in court against what he says are cheaters. The candidates are allowed to challenge the election. Happens every year.
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Is the challenge legitimate through the courts or is it through violence and rioting?
 

‘Armed Guards Will Throw Them Out’: CNN Airs Clip of Roger Stone Laying Out Plan to Invalidate Election Results


Stone being reported as saying, "f**k the voting, let's get right to the violence," is the least of the outrage behind Stone's actions. He was laying out a plan to perform a coup -- having the loser of the election using his presidential office to stay in power.

What they’re assuming is, the election will be normal. The election will not be normal.

“Oh, these are the California results? Sorry, we’re not accepting them! We’re challenging them in court! If the electors show up at the Electoral College, armed guards will throw them out. I’m the president. **** you! You’re not stealing Florida. You’re not stealing–I’m challenging all of it. And the judges we’re going to are judges I appointed. **** you. You’re not stealing the election.”

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In my opinion, Stone is guilty of conspiracy to commit fraud against the United States and Seditious Conspiracy. He should spend the remaining years of his life in prison.

Stone is an anti-American piece of shit. No wonder Trump loves him. Birds of a feather.
 
First time in history a political operative was delusional and/or lying, I bet. /s
Oh look, a variation of the "both sides do it" defense.

Not like this they don't.

Sorry for your luck.
 
Was there significant fraud in the states that attempted to send fake electors?
I don't know. How would I know? I wouldn't, and neither would you. I know WaPo, CNN and the NYTimes reporters swear there isn't, because their anonymous sources claim that everything was on the up-and-up, and we all know reporters are the brightest and the best, so they have done detailed analyses of data, and they have in no way tried to
Is the challenge legitimate through the courts or is it through violence and rioting?
If you read the full quote, that is what Stone said - challenge it in the courts. His reference to violence is not acceptable, but hardly different than Democrats calling for "unrest" and all that, harassment of elected officials, and the like, when it suits them. Democrats aren't worse, but they certainly aren't better. Politics is about power, and power corrupts, and it's not just Republicans who are corrupted. Both sides will cheat. And, they do. This myth sold to the public that there is "no such thing as voter fraud" is absurd - it strains credulity and is counterintuitive - humans cheat on everything, from taxes to save a buck, to poker games, to tests in order to pass some stupid business administration course, or to get into a club or organization. They lie about everything, but for some reason Democrats have convinced much of the public that voting is sacrosanct, and that to even think that someone would organize a fraud in voting is tantamount to treason. Yet, in many many elections, allegations of fraud, challenges to electors, court cases, etc. are done to try to "overturn" the results. Only when Trump does it, it's treason.
 
Oh look, a variation of the "both sides do it" defense.

Not like this they don't.

Sorry for your luck.
Of course they do - you think Democrats haven't called for violence to serve their political ends? How many examples do you need?

Both sides do it, because this is about power, and for the last 50+ years we've basically had one party, not two, both with their hands in the graft and the cookie jar, both vying for power, and neither side hesitant to cheat. To think Democrats are immune to this is absurd.
 
Of course they do - you think Democrats haven't called for violence to serve their political ends? How many examples do you need?

Both sides do it, because this is about power, and for the last 50+ years we've basically had one party, not two, both with their hands in the graft and the cookie jar, both vying for power, and neither side hesitant to cheat. To think Democrats are immune to this is absurd.
Who staged a violent coup at the nation's capital? Trumpers, last time I checked. All your whataboutism doesn't come close. You are preaching to the choir. Only MAGAts believe your BS.
 
Of course they do - you think Democrats haven't called for violence to serve their political ends? How many examples do you need?

Both sides do it, because this is about power, and for the last 50+ years we've basically had one party, not two, both with their hands in the graft and the cookie jar, both vying for power, and neither side hesitant to cheat. To think Democrats are immune to this is absurd.
Keep diggin' that hole mang. I'm just gonna watch and laugh.
 
It's a cult. And a mafia.
 
^^^Yes the Dems are.

It’s called brainwashing through propaganda, with hate. You can thank the current administration for its divisiveness.

Power and control.
 
I don't know. How would I know? I wouldn't, and neither would you. I know WaPo, CNN and the NYTimes reporters swear there isn't, because their anonymous sources claim that everything was on the up-and-up, and we all know reporters are the brightest and the best, so they have done detailed analyses of data, and they have in no way tried to

If you read the full quote, that is what Stone said - challenge it in the courts. His reference to violence is not acceptable, but hardly different than Democrats calling for "unrest" and all that, harassment of elected officials, and the like, when it suits them. Democrats aren't worse, but they certainly aren't better. Politics is about power, and power corrupts, and it's not just Republicans who are corrupted. Both sides will cheat. And, they do. This myth sold to the public that there is "no such thing as voter fraud" is absurd - it strains credulity and is counterintuitive - humans cheat on everything, from taxes to save a buck, to poker games, to tests in order to pass some stupid business administration course, or to get into a club or organization. They lie about everything, but for some reason Democrats have convinced much of the public that voting is sacrosanct, and that to even think that someone would organize a fraud in voting is tantamount to treason. Yet, in many many elections, allegations of fraud, challenges to electors, court cases, etc. are done to try to "overturn" the results. Only when Trump does it, it's treason.

Your first answer is misinformation. There were multiple recounts of democratic precincts in urban areas of swing states. There were many reviews. You are arguing with Christopher Wray and William Barr, J. Pak, and hundreds of other officials who examined the results thoroughly. Why didn't the six states that trump needed refuse to change their EC slates? do you know why they refused in December to change their slates?

I'm glad to see in your second answer that you don't condone violence. Challenge it in the courts? they did. And when that failed, what did they do?
 
It's an effective poll tax for those who they want to prevent from voting.

International observers who monitor elections in Democracies world wide have made the same observation.

US elections in 2020 where fair, but as usual the US gets low marks for the long lines after 4pm. This is a recurring observation every 4 years by these international observers. It needs to change.
 
Sounds like he's talking about fighting in court against what he says are cheaters. The candidates are allowed to challenge the election. Happens every year.
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That’s what I say every time I go to vote with my friends: “**** the voting, let’s get right to the violence.”
 
That’s what I say every time I go to vote with my friends: “**** the voting, let’s get right to the violence.”
I usually call for unrest in the streets, and that they shouldn't let up, because there should be uprisings. That's a lot better.
 
International observers who monitor elections in Democracies world wide have made the same observation.

US elections in 2020 where fair, but as usual the US gets low marks for the long lines after 4pm. This is a recurring observation every 4 years by these international observers. It needs to change.
Be specific about which polling places have the long lines in which states, and why. What happens is that States review the statistics on population and registered voters, and they allocate voting place resources based on the statistical analysis. There is no conspiracy to make Democrats wait in long lines.

I mean, for god's sake, there is no difficulty voting in the US. Early voting for weeks over many days, election day voting, vote by mail, you name it. FFS, this is such a contrived issue.
 
I usually call for unrest in the streets, and that they shouldn't let up, because there should be uprisings. That's a lot better.
So you acknowledge that Stone called for violence, and you interpret this as a legitimate call for voting?
 
I don't know. How would I know? I wouldn't, and neither would you. I know WaPo, CNN and the NYTimes reporters swear there isn't, because their anonymous sources claim that everything was on the up-and-up, and we all know reporters are the brightest and the best, so they have done detailed analyses of data, and they have in no way tried to

If you read the full quote, that is what Stone said - challenge it in the courts. His reference to violence is not acceptable, but hardly different than Democrats calling for "unrest" and all that, harassment of elected officials, and the like, when it suits them. Democrats aren't worse, but they certainly aren't better. Politics is about power, and power corrupts, and it's not just Republicans who are corrupted. Both sides will cheat. And, they do. This myth sold to the public that there is "no such thing as voter fraud" is absurd - it strains credulity and is counterintuitive - humans cheat on everything, from taxes to save a buck, to poker games, to tests in order to pass some stupid business administration course, or to get into a club or organization. They lie about everything, but for some reason Democrats have convinced much of the public that voting is sacrosanct, and that to even think that someone would organize a fraud in voting is tantamount to treason. Yet, in many many elections, allegations of fraud, challenges to electors, court cases, etc. are done to try to "overturn" the results. Only when Trump does it, it's treason.
Your fallacy here is called in some circles “failure to draw the line”.

You went straight to “democrats say there’s no voter fraud”.

That is not what they say. What they say is there’s always some fraud, coming from both sides, but rarely enough to affect an election and nowhere near enough to have tipped this election.

This is the Big Lie at work. The propaganda technique, capitalized because that is its name in their textbooks. Human beings begin to believe things they hear over and over and over. Doesn’t take anything else. Doesn’t have to be true. Doesn’t even have to be plausible. Just repeated, ideally from outwardly unaffiliated sources. The big lie part is to tell a lie so big no one would dare tell it, this actually makes it easier to believe. If no one would dare tell that big of a lie it must be the truth.

That’s why y’all cling to it but have varied in degree and aspect. It’s hard to admit to oneself that they have been fooled.

The propagandists know that too and take advantage of it.

Be mad. But be mad at the people who are baldly manipulating you day in and day out. You know, like you’re sure we are being, which we are, but it’s harder as we tend to be more educated so it’s more difficult to pull off.
 
They are elected, so whoever legitimately won the election should have their slate of electors appointed. So, if the election was not legitimate, then the electors are not legally appointed. They're illegally appointed.

In 2016, Democrats and Hillary Clinton routinely said the 2016 election was stolen, won by fraud through "interference" by Trump colluding with Russians, and that Trump was not a legitimate President. That is no less of a "big lie" than the Trump doing it in 2020.
You mean 2020, 2021, 2022, and likely ongoing for Trumps life span. Haven't heard much from Hillary since 2016/17. Besides which, I don't remember Hillary followers trying to prevent Trump taking office via violent interference in the constitutional process.
 
I don't know. How would I know? I wouldn't, and neither would you. I know WaPo, CNN and the NYTimes reporters swear there isn't, because their anonymous sources claim that everything was on the up-and-up, and we all know reporters are the brightest and the best, so they have done detailed analyses of data, and they have in no way tried to

If you read the full quote, that is what Stone said - challenge it in the courts. His reference to violence is not acceptable, but hardly different than Democrats calling for "unrest" and all that, harassment of elected officials, and the like, when it suits them. Democrats aren't worse, but they certainly aren't better. Politics is about power, and power corrupts, and it's not just Republicans who are corrupted. Both sides will cheat. And, they do. This myth sold to the public that there is "no such thing as voter fraud" is absurd - it strains credulity and is counterintuitive - humans cheat on everything, from taxes to save a buck, to poker games, to tests in order to pass some stupid business administration course, or to get into a club or organization. They lie about everything, but for some reason Democrats have convinced much of the public that voting is sacrosanct, and that to even think that someone would organize a fraud in voting is tantamount to treason. Yet, in many many elections, allegations of fraud, challenges to electors, court cases, etc. are done to try to "overturn" the results. Only when Trump does it, it's treason.
Did I claim anything from Amy MSM at all ? No I didn't so why is that part of your response? You would rather blame MSM instead of addressing the issue?

Did you recognize the names I mentioned? Why don't you critique their findings? Did I ever say that I personally reviewed the claims? Why don't you address the question instead of deflection about sources that were able to investigate and verify?
 
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