Morality Games
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Would that not be included in my second scenario?
Truthfully, the amount of government that needs to be cut is beyond our current capacity to do so.
Yes, you're right, this is very serious. We should have given them more money during the bail outs and let them break more laws.
In seriousness, you could lower their taxes to 5% and if surcharges didn't cost them more they would still engage in tax evasion of any kind they could. That's what their profession psychologically conditions them to do; save and make money through nook and every crevice they can exploit.
This is mine and it's true. Got a problem with the truth?
Okay, "super rich" nonsense aside...
If you voluntarily offer to terminate your citizenship of any given country for any reason, and if you do so in a legal manner, I think any future activity in the country should be done as though you're an alien. All paperwork, processes, investigations, and requirements applied to other foreigners coming into the country should apply to the former citizen.
If you voluntarily offer to terminate your citizenship for nefarious reasons or while simultaneously committing crimes against the citizens of the country you should be flagged for immediate capture and holding if you re-enter the country so you can face the legal consequences of your criminal actions.
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you people are the ones wanting to sanction people for renouncing citizenship... the message is clear. " stay here or you will be punished"
Rock stars left the UK during the "British invasion" of pop music, largely due to ridiculously high taxes, and mostly to America's benefit. Now the Americans, apparently unaware and uninfluenced by history, are also encouraging their best, brightest and richest to leave.
We welcome them to Canada and I'm happy to see many of them settling in Costa Rica as well.
It's the governments who are the greedy pigs, by the way, with their faces in the trough, an inability to balance a budget, and a recklessness in spending that will eventually bring the country down to its knees.
I do enjoy the liberal positions exhibited in the thread though.
1. For renouncing citizenship in a free country, they should be given 20 years hard labor.
I do enjoy the liberal positions exhibited in the thread though.
1. For renouncing citizenship in a free country, they should be given 20 years hard labor.
Liberal, statist; potato, potahto.That was me who said that. I'm not a liberal. In fact, I'm quite opposed to liberalism. Get your facts straight.
And one more thing: I didn't say that they should be punished for renouncing their citizenship; I said they should be punished for tax evasion.
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that all the rich people in the country broke any laws?
And who supports bailouts?
That's just crony capitalism and the consumer and the taxpayers always suffer.
Which president is now sleeping with the head of GE? Can you understand why?
So now you accuse them of tax evasion, you have access to their psychological tests, yet this is the serious part.
I see a dark future for America if this is genuinely centrist thought.
Hey man, I've seen more than one liberal on this site telling us (libertarians) to just leave if we don't like being taxed to death, so don't go on about how libertarians aren't playing nice boys and girls. The general attitude of libs on this site is that instead of controlling spending by government, and reigning in what is going to break us financially, WE shoud just leave. The problem with that attitude is that if those of us paying the bills were to all leave, this country wouldn't last 1 year.
I'm going to ignore future posts that phrase their arguments in the form of questions. Either argue your position or don't.
Why Prosecutors Don't Go After Wall Street : NPR
Official guidelines of the Justice Department post-2008 are not to prosecute white collar crime very severely because it would obtrude on economic development.
People who have stakes in the banking, insurance, and financing industries. Specifically rich people.
You don't have a great deal of choice when the upper-income brackets hold your country's status as an economic superpower hostage.
The auto-mobile industry is kind of peripheral to this. I'm guessing you're trying to make a point about Obama's relationship to corporations.
Obama enjoys no special relationship to Wall Street; the Washington system is set up so that you have to play ball with corporations if you want to achieve anything because of the inordinate influence of their lobbying power.
Obama is certainly less sympathetic to Wall-Street than say, Mitt Romney will be, or George Bush was. But he has no choice when Wall-Street owns Congress.
... why else would they renounce their U.S. citizenship besides not wanting to pay taxes? And the spiritual and mental anguish of having to be somewhat higher taxes after enjoying historically low levels at the public expense isn't a very credible excuse.
Well, what you propose is called fascism. Why the hell would you want ot put someone in a "penal camp" who used their brain and drive to succeed? Aren't these the type of people we should encourage to stay in this country?
When their brains and drive are used to fragrantly violate the law, there must be severe consequences. These people shouldn't be encouraged to stay here any more than common criminals, in fact much less so. If they want to live abroad and renounce their citizenship, let them. But first they must pay for their crimes against the state and the proletariat.
Yet you identify yourself as a socialist...That was me who said that. I'm not a liberal. In fact, I'm quite opposed to liberalism. Get your facts straight.
Banishment is not going to change these people. They used the "American dream" to get where they are, and now they want to discard this country like a used piece of toilet paper. Twenty years of hard labor in a penal camp should teach them the proper amount of respect for working people and the lower and middle class citizens of this country.
Countries are meant to protect the rights and liberties of the people. There is no connection between the individual person and the country as a whole that is worth honorable mention. I use the economy and the market to my favor and when I done with it I can throw it out and call myself done with it. There should be nothing that ties me here or there as I should be free to go where I want whenever I want. That goes for anyone here. If the chance comes to you and you want to leave, leave. It is your right.
And there is no such thing as the American dream.
Countries are meant to protect the rights and liberties of the people. There is no connection between the individual person and the country as a whole that is worth honorable mention. I use the economy and the market to my favor and when I done with it I can throw it out and call myself done with it. There should be nothing that ties me here or there as I should be free to go where I want whenever I want. That goes for anyone here. If the chance comes to you and you want to leave, leave. It is your right.
And there is no such thing as the American dream.
But there seems to be an increasing number of cheap SOB's that think they can take it with them. I hope they choke.
But there seems to be an increasing number of cheap SOB's that think they can take it with them. I hope they choke.
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