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Recent content by Joby

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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    Absolutely not, and I never said this. I said we shouldn’t be fighting to convert peoples to liberal or communist values. Of course we should ally with illiberal Vietnam. They wouldn’t be hosting our enemies like they currently are. The Islamist Jihadists won twice. We are the losers...
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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    Yes this is literally my point we shouldn't have been supporting a regime based on liberal ideas in Afghanistan (or communist ideas, anywhere) You know who committed a ton of war crimes? The Taliban. Aka the 2x Winners. Compared to losing? And being strung up by some Jihadist mob while you're...
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    Oh yes, in the grand American tradition of creating democracies and then running away as they burn! I sure hope your morals feel good to the dead Afghans we left behind! Perhaps that spirit rolled out the red carpet for the advance of ISIS by the pathetic American-created liberal government...
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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    War crimes are simply irrelevant if you win and nobody is coming to save you if you lose. It's better to be a war criminal and win than end up getting genocided out like would have happened to the Alwites in Syria or did happen to the poor sops dumb enough to support the USA in Afghanistan...
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    Has Putin Lost Already?

    The goalposts for Putin were always notoriously vague. The idea of fully annexing Ukraine seems to be on the extreme end of the scale, and at this point the russians are taking more Ukrainian territory. As I said initially if full annexation is the metric then it doesn't appear Russia will be...
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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    Israel will take whatever action they need to do to survive. If western liberals decide that Israel is illegitimate anyways that will open new tools for Israel to use. Why spend millions on smart weapons to save civilian lives when it's irrelevant? In fact it may be determined that inflicting...
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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    I'd say that's a bit simplistic and harsh. I do believe that western liberals have largely forgotten what it means to be playing with all of your chips on the table. Which is very unfortunate. I feel very strongly that the US focus in Afghanistan and Iraq should have been on creating states...
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    Bombs Away For Russia, Hands Tied Behind Back for U.S. & Israel

    OP, You are completely correct. However, Israel relies on western liberals for support. Russia does not. Western liberals and their beliefs about proportionality do not actually matter except to other western liberals (eg Kabul, Yemen, Syria...none of the western liberal beliefs actually matter...
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    Has Putin Lost Already?

    Russia is still advancing and holding Ukrainian territory however. Western arms and sanctions have not stopped this fact after the initial debacle of the Russian assault on Kiev (though the south and east is looking more and more secured for Russia) but it looks like following what can only be...
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    John Bolton is a western liberal. He believes western liberalism should be spread by force and the tools of western liberalism such as NATO should be expanded. Bolton believes in a unipolar world in which the liberal west is not only the dominant power but the only true power. Not relevant...
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    Grozny was rubble a decade ago. Now they’re amongst the most enthusiastic fighting for Russia. Odd isn’t it? Coming from a “we must win hearts and minds” culture doesn’t make tremendous sense. Hell, the Russians got the Islamist terrorists they conquered to fight on their side. Maybe We...
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    I would rather have a dictator in charge than live in a country where different factions battle it out like they did in Iraq. I would rather have had the US build a state that can defend itself than some liberal do-gooder dream that crumbles as soon as the Taliban arrives. I would rather have...
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    Unless we ignore the continued purchase of Russian energy by western countries of course.
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    [W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

    China will bear no cost whatsoever for supporting Russia in full. On the contrary, I believe they will receive token hand wringing from the West but there will be no serious disengagement in the short term. Simultaneously their growing energy needs will be met with discounted Russian while their...
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    Has Putin Lost Already?

    Just have to point out as well that if a fifth of my country was occupied with the occupiers launching a new offensive today I wouldn’t be celebrating.
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