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Zimmerman complained about police last year

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Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman accused a Florida police department of corruption more than a year before he shot unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, saying at a public forum the agency covered up the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white officer.

So much for zimmerman being a racist it seems....now this is an interesting revelation


Zimmerman complained about police last year
 
Good point.
 


Hitler's grandmother was Jewish, so Hitler could not have been anti-semetic.


The Question is, whether Zimmerman committed Assault or Stalking agaisnt Trayvon, by following Tayvon in an intimmidating manner, and refusing to answer Trayvon's Question, "Why are you following me?" and responing back in a threatening manner, "What are you doing here?" If Zim was not threatening Trayvon in an intimidating manner, why did Trayvon tell his girlfriend that Trayvon was upset wtih Zimmerman following him in a threatening manner?

Will the judge hold a stand your ground hearring? Will the judge believe Zim over Trayvon's girlfriend? If the judge holds Zim for trial, will the jury believbe Zim over Trayvon's girlfriend?






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Gladiator said:
Hitler's grandmother was Jewish, so Hitler could not have been anti-semetic.
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But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? :roll:

Anyone wannna take shot at it?

No, no and no

You have this all wrong and mixed up in your head, dude

1 Zim had every right to be tailing Martin, so that the cops could interview him when they arrived.

2 Martin on the other hand...swinging on Zim, knocking him to the ground, and beating his head against the concrete - now that was wrong, wrong as in the commission of a crime. Very bad, indeed




Will the judge hold a stand your ground hearring? Will the judge believe Zim over Trayvon's girlfriend? If the judge holds Zim for trial, will the jury believbe Zim over Trayvon's girlfriend?
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Evidence that Martin was attacking Zim and no evidence of any kind that Zim attacked Martin.

Doesn't even get you to "manslaughter", let alone second-degree murder.

Case dismissed
 

Stalking is a crime in FLA.

Fla. Stat. § 784.048. Stalking; definitions; penalties. (2008)

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "course of conduct." Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.

(c) "Credible threat" means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.
 

Not applicable is this case.....

Corey overcharges (overcharges is the key word) Zim with Murder 2 yet makes no mention of stalking (a criminal offense)

Why is that?
 

This isn't new information. It was out there within a few days of the "explosion." Nobody gave a damn.
 

What Zimmerman was doing was constitutionally protected, he had a right to bear arms and a right to be where he was that night.

Sorry. But this stalking thing is done, ka-put. Leave it alone.
 
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What Zimmerman was doing was constitutionally protected, he had a right to bear arms and a right to be where he was that night.

Sorry. But this stalking thing is done, ka-put. Leave it alone.
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If Zim was legit, why did he POTTED PLANT his answer to Trayvon, who asked, "Why are you following me?" If Zim was legit, why did Zim act like a Skinhead gang member enforcing his turf by asking, with hostility, "What are you dong here?" Trayvon had a right to be there. Zim conducted a number of activities that resulted in Trayvon being upset and fearful, as described by Trayvon's girlfriend. Zim went beyond Stalking, and committed Assault, by intentionally placing Trayvon in fear.


"Most gang homicides are not random, nor are they only disputes over drugs or some other crime. The vast majority of violent incidents involving gang members continue to result from fights over turf, status, and revenge."

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/sciprc/pdf/GANG_VIOLENCE.pdf


Certainly it would be good to defend legitimate neighborhood watch actvities. Zim was way beyond ordinary neighborhood watch functions. People should stop trying to defend Zim, and let him serve his time.



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Zim went beyond Stalking, and committed Assault, by intentionally placing Trayvon in fear.
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You have a reading comprehension and lack of subject knowledge on this issue. It's best to just stop


The stalking crap has been explained over and over
 
ric27 said:
You have a reading comprehension and lack of subject knowledge on this issue. It's best to just stop


The stalking crap has been explained over and over
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This is Assualt beyong Stalking:


Listen to Dee Dee:


Articles: Trayvon, Dee-Dee, and D.J.


Trayvon Martin Arrest Now After ABC Reveals Crucial Phone Call - ABC News


Enlighten me. Give me a link that Zim was not intimidating and guilty of Assault

Florida Jury Instructions.

Dershiowitz is the father of the Sentencing Guidlelines. So you think that sentencing guidelines have reduced recidivism? Deshowitz is a dumbo.

Let Zim start serving his time. Get it over with already.


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You have fallen into the usual trap of being misinformed, misguided and biased.

I can't help you
 

You really do go out of your way to prove you have NO integrity in your messages, don't you?

So... let's continue that statute - the part you DELIBERATELY left off:

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person’s child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

WHY DID YOU LEAVE OF "REPEATEDLY?" But we know why, don't we all!

So much for any integrity in your messages or even citations. It's called lying by omission - something you declare proved Zimmerman a liar for doing. So then, so too you by your own declared values?

Anyone who will alter or omit sections of a Statute to try to prove exactly opposite what the statute says is of as low of integrity in statements as is possible.
 
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Its covered here:

(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "course of conduct." Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.

You don't have to meet EVERY criteria.........



 
I can't seem to find the thread where you asked about the investigator testifying that Trayvon was doing nothing illegal..

It was Chris Serino in a sworn affidavit..
 

Yes, all criteria has to be met. That's what "and" rather than "or" means. Most people can understand that.
All you cite is definitions and definitions by themselves are nothing.
 
This news can be a doubled edged sword. Zimmerman isn't racist, but the police force has a habit of covering up crimes committed by people they are associated with.
 

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