I am neither arguing for "shooting a newborn or leaving them to die from exposure of starvation," I am asking people to evaluate what Zika is capable of doing to kids in concert with governments that want to dictate the outcome.
You want the government to allow kids to be murdered. Same difference really.
"Dictate the outcome" is your funny little way of condemning governments for trying to prevent homicide.
If you don't want to be a parent or you can't handle the responsibilities or expenses, then don't make kids. If you're going to do the act which makes kids anyway, use contraception, but know that no contraception is perfect and you're still possibly going to make a kid.
The existence and prevalence of a virus with teratogenic effects does not alter those fundamentals principles in any way.
No it is not, it just what you need it to be to avoid having to really discuss this matter.
There's nothing to discuss. Murder should be illegal, and people who think otherwise, being immune to reason, should be mocked and ridiculed.
Of course it does
What part of the existence of a teratogenic virus changes the fundamentals of "If you don't want to be a parent or you can't handle the responsibilities or expenses, then don't make kids."
I mean, it raises the amount of responsibilities and expenses should you (or your partner, for men) become pregnant.
Finally! A cure for all maladies. Death. :roll:
The effectiveness of abstinence is not dependent on where you are.
No it is not, it just what you need it to be to avoid having to really discuss this matter.
No, that is not what is happening at all. Reasonable people are trying to have a discussion on dealing with the reality of Zika which is soon to become our reality, others want to derail the conversation into rhetoric about "evil."
It illustrates with perfection that you have no idea what in the hell you are talking about.
Brazil is suffering from an outbreak of Zika virus, which health officials here say may be behind a spike in cases of microcephaly, which sees infants born with unusually small heads, as well as the paralysis-causing Guillain-Barre syndrome. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has advised pregnant women to reconsider travel to Brazil and 21 other countries with Zika outbreaks.
Correct. Abstinence is ineffective everywhere!
There's a reason abortion discussions are useless. Either you believe life begins at conception, and therefore a fetus is a human baby that must be protected, or you don't. People who do will always see abortion as murdering a child. People who don't will not. There's no middle ground. There's no compromise.
However, it is useful to at least be able to discuss things from another's perspective. Paleocon sees abortion as murder. I don't agree, but I understand his perspective and therefore understand the posts he makes. Whether that goes the other way is anyone's guess.
This also makes it fun to evaluate various proposals put up by conservatives regarding abortion. So often, the proposal isn't consistent with someone who sees a fetus as a human baby, but rather consistent with someone who wants to make sure women are properly punished for having sex.
I'm glad Beethoven wasn't aborted because of his hearing loss.
Just saying.
Microcephaly almost always causes significant brain damage and can be life threatening.
The effectiveness of abstinence is not dependent on where you are.
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