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Zelensky: Ukraine Will Not Give Up Land for Cease-Fire With Russia

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Not surprisingly Putin's ceasefire proposal has been rejected by Ukraine like they have several times before. This is nothing new, it is the same proposal offered in 2023 when it was also rejected. There is no country on earth that would agree to such a one sided "ceasefire" and if Trump thinks Zelensky will he should watch this video. The Ukrainian Constitution even specifically forbids such a move and no President even has the power to do it.

 
Nobody should cave into fascists, because if you give them an inch, they will take a mile.
Trump thinks he is Neville Chamberlain and wants to start another world war like he did. Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Xi is licking his chops at this.
 
Trump thinks he is Neville Chamberlain and wants to start another world war like he did. Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Xi is licking his chops at this.

Trump IS Chamberlain but believes himself to be Churchill, and back home he's actually just Hitler
 
Now Trump will get pissed at Ukraine again. Trump doesn't care what Ukraine has to give up. He just wants to be able to claim that he stopped the war so he can feed his own ego. Trump is also much more scared of Putin than he is of Zelensky.
 
Trump thinks he is Neville Chamberlain and wants to start another world war like he did. Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Xi is licking his chops at this.

Nah, he's after a Nobel Peace Prize.

 
Not surprisingly Putin's ceasefire proposal has been rejected by Ukraine like they have several times before. This is nothing new, it is the same proposal offered in 2023 when it was also rejected. And Blah blah blah
So it's time to withdraw Ukrainian nationalists gangs out of Donbass and Kherson.
It's time for the West to end it's bloody immoral proxy-war in Ukraine!
And despite all the cries and shouts of Globlist's media propaganda, it is NOT IMPORTANT what Green Goblin the 1st of Ukraine thinks about the Russian proposal, it's not important what is written in Ukrainian constitution (because we all know how easily this constitution can be changed).
What really matters and what is important, the West MUST recognize Donbass/Crimea independence and Donbass/Crimea choice to return to Russia.
The West (US) want's a cease fire ?
Gentlemen, we all know that your desires must be PAID FOR.!
Go on , recognize the Donbass as a part of Russia (US starts recognition, the Europe will follow suit), and get your long awaited time break!
As usual everything is in the hands of Russian dearest Western "partners"!
 

No.
 
Rewarding Putin for his war crimes is not only unacceptable it is a sure way to start another world war. Just ask any WWII veteran if Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler was a good idea. It gave Hitler time to prepare to invade Poland and the rest of europe followed. We must crush Russia now or be doomed to another world war. Europe should know that well and Trump can pound sand.
 
As Usual your personal opinion is worth NOTHING. Ukrainian people will decide their lot without you.
So it (opinion) is very little noted and very loudly laughed at.

The people of Ukraine have made their opinion shown to Russia by way of destroying their war materials and the high casualty counts.

You speak for Putin.

Your opinion is noted and loudly laughed at.
 
I am pretty sure that most of American by voting for Trump, actually voted for the end of American proxy War in Ukraine.
So please don't pretend the your "we must crush Russia" covers much broader circle of people the you and your crazy palls war mongers.
You can help your glorious green clown Zelensky by joining Ukrainian military where you will get a chance to use great and reliable American weapons and help to "crush Russia" with your own hands! .
 

Trump is a developmentally disabled individual.

Like most Americans that want easy solutions to difficult problems, he perpetually keeps smashing his own face against rocks, while normal people wonder why he isn't intelligent enough to stop smashing his own face with rocks.

He is a human example of absurd fiction.
 

The majority of weapons in Ukrainian hands are of Russian origin.

They just use them better.
 
The people of Ukraine have made their opinion shown to Russia by way of destroying their war materials and the high casualty counts.

You speak for Putin.

Your opinion is noted and loudly laughed at.
The people of Ukraine have "made their opinion" by electing legitimate president Yanukovich which was illegally overthrown by the bunch of armed thugs, posing as "peaceful protesters" in 2014.
All the subsequent puppet rulers of "Ukraine" were not elected by the people of Ukraine.
So I speak for the people of Ukraine. While you speak for illegal military war lord Zelensky and his bloody Western collaborators.
 


Yanukovich turned his back on Ukrainian's desire to distance themselves from Russia.

Protests happened and he had protesters gunned down.

He them RAN AWAY and abandoned his post

All subsequent leaders of Ukraine were elected by the people of Ukraine.

And witnessed and confirmed by nations outside Ukraine.

You speak for Putin.
 
We must crush Russia now or be doomed to another world war. Europe should know that well and Trump can pound sand.
So you want to directly have the US declare war on Russia? More warmongering.
 
Yankovich was illegally removed from office. What we have now is the direct result of that.
 

Trust me, if russia collapsed tomorrow, America would throw a three-day party . . . if russia mattered.

But russia doesn't matter to anyone anymore, and so America would just be happy in a general way, because as a country, russia is a piece of shit place that deserves to die a comical death, just like in 1991.
 
Yanukovich turned his back on Ukrainian's desire to distance themselves from Russia.
LIES. There was not Ukrainian "desire to distance themselves from Russia"
Protests happened and he had protesters gunned down.
LIES. It was direct duty for the law enforcement forces to restore the constitutional order even by "gunning down" some most aggressive "peaceful protesters"
He them RAN AWAY and abandoned his post
Yanukovich was illegally ousted. It's not important what he did after the illegal change of power in Ukraine.
All subsequent leaders of Ukraine were elected by the people of Ukraine.
LIES. Neither Donbass nor Crimea NEVER participated in these sham "elections".
And witnessed and confirmed by nations outside Ukraine.
"Confirmed" by globalists stooges and servants outside Ukraine.
You speak for Putin.
I am not linked to Russian government . And I am not a "speaker" for the Russian president. LIES as usual . ALL your posts contain the same LIES.
 
Relax . Russia will not collapse tomorrow. It will also NOT COLLAPSE the day-after-tomorrow, neither next week, nor next month.
It will not collapsed whatever you are dreaming of .
It's time to recall the prophecies of you great POTUS made in 2022.
He said Russian economy is in ruins and the dollar will cost more then 200 rubles at the end of 2022.
Did it all come true?
Get out of Ukraine , which is a part of Russia and always was, and think whatever you want about Russia. Nobody cares about your opinion after all....
 
Here is what Russia is owed:

Population decline.
Famine.
Disgrace.
 
I sat back and thought of a world without Russia.

It seems very much like this world, except Eastern Europe would be a lot nicer.
 
So you want to directly have the US declare war on Russia? More warmongering.
And you want Ukraine and probably the Baltics and Poland to just roll over for Russia.
 
How is operation Kiev in 3 Days coming along, comrade?
 
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