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hoplite said:i dont really drink soda anymore. I have on two occasions that i can remember. One was for a recipe the other was when someone in our house was sick. Other than that, i dont drink soda.
You don't want to answer. Fine.Again, I dont think she's 100% right or wrong. I think these social programs ultimately benefit society in the end by keeping people working, I dont know if it's an exact return rate similar to what she mentioned though.
That's correct, what you do does not make up the person you are. Just because someone's a plumber doesn't define them. I'm not oversimplifying anything, I'm actually taking a much more complex view of human behavior. An oversimplification is your view, in which what a person does defines who they are and is inseparable. That's ludicrous.You are trying to over-simplify. Human behavior is driven, in part, by who YOU are. You cannot completely separate a person's actions from themselves, you are trying to disavow people's responsibility in their actions by saying "Oh that isnt part of you, that isnt really you."
irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
no, that's working backwards; because to send out unemployment benefits means that first you must remove money from the system.
irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.no, that's working backwards; because to send out unemployment benefits means that first you must remove money from the system.
irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
No, that's not what she's arguing. How do you guys get so much wrong?
Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.
Yes those things do help the economy, unemployment, and food stamps are these people's only income and they will spend all of it, and put that money back into the economy. It increases demand, which is what will get us out of these hard times, because demand is extremely low.
The answer is more complicated than a yes/no answer. I've answered this TWICE. Just because you dont LIKE the answer...You don't want to answer. Fine.
What you do IS part of who you are, but it isnt entirely who you are. It's still a part of you though, so hating what someone does, in my opinion, is hating part of them.That's correct, what you do does not make up the person you are. Just because someone's a plumber doesn't define them. I'm not oversimplifying anything, I'm actually taking a much more complex view of human behavior. An oversimplification is your view, in which what a person does defines who they are and is inseparable. That's ludicrous.
Then all 330 million of us should go on unemployment and foodstamps and within a few months, our economy would be booming again. :lamo
Listening to this stuff is like someone telling a child if they jump up and down outside they'll make diamonds by packing down the dirt outside. It's truly hilarious, the amount of delusion people have an then try to convince others.
Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.
Then all 330 million of us should go on unemployment and foodstamps and within a few months, our economy would be booming again
Listening to this stuff is like someone telling a child if they jump up and down outside they'll make diamonds by packing down the dirt outside. It's truly hilarious, the amount of delusion people have an then try to convince others.
You're completely missing the economic reasoning behind this. It's giving these people an income, in which they otherwise wouldn't have an income.
that is where we disagree. these people would not stop eating simply because they got fired.
You're completely missing the economic reasoning behind this. It's giving these people an income, in which they otherwise wouldn't have an income. They generally spend all of this income they receive, and it increases demand in the economy. If you already have an income, and you're spending money, you're contributing to demand in the economy, these unemployment, and food stamps are just giving more people means to contribute to the demand. If they didn't receive these, then demand would be lower. It's not that hard to understand.
That's not really the argument. The argument is whether or not these help the economy, and they do. They increase demand.
People on welfare don't produce.
Introducing welfare necessarily increases the amount of people who don't produce.
Welfare leads to less production.
I can demand all I want, but production needs to be there. You need capital, not demand for that.
Faulty logic due to oversimplification. You guys say lower taxes improve the economy. The last few years you have paid less taxes than you ever have before. Therefore, by conservative economic theory we should have the best economy ever! Also, 0% tax rates would make SUPER UTOPIAAAAA!
It's more complicated than that, and you damn well know it.
That's not really the argument. The argument is whether or not these help the economy, and they do. They increase demand.
People who spend welfare money increases demand, and it has nothing to do with supply.
People on welfare don't produce.
Introducing welfare necessarily increases the amount of people who don't produce.
Welfare leads to less production.
I can demand all I want, but production needs to be there. You need capital, not demand for that.
yourstar; where did the money come from?
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