ocean515
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Social security fraud is not exclusive to any one group...The SSA deals with all sorts of fraud from all sorts of tax payers.
Not "rounding" them up makes them "legal" in no sort of way...
You clearly don't understand which branch of government holds the purse-strings. You also are not aware that it has been congress to consitantly refuse to increase funds for the border patrol.
And everyone seems to forget sequestration was a big hit on funding immigration enforcement.
Its easy to say "enforce the laws" but that cost money. It takes people to do the enforcing...We can't even deport 45,000 and people want massive deportations...Where do we house them all on the deportation process.
People are so simplistic in their assessments of things that are logistical nightmares.
You clearly don't understand which branch of government holds the purse-strings. You also are not aware that it has been congress to consitantly refuse to increase funds for the border patrol.
And everyone seems to forget sequestration was a big hit on funding immigration enforcement.
Its easy to say "enforce the laws" but that cost money. It takes people to do the enforcing...We can't even deport 45,000 and people want massive deportations...Where do we house them all on the deportation process.
People are so simplistic in their assessments of things that are logistical nightmares.
I would be fine with a guest worker program, as long as they actually did go back when done.There you have it, although I would include a guest worker program. Come here, work, pay taxes and return to your home country until your services are needed again.
Of course I wouldn't have problems issuing a divers license.
I would be fine with a guest worker program, as long as they actually did go back when done.
I'm against DLs. Unless the world has changed since I last did this (a couple decades ago), or we don't recognize it, I don't see why they couldn't get an international DL and use that similar to how international travelers do it.
I'm ok with a guest worker program for pretty much any industry, save maybe something sensitive regarding national security/technology. I believe that our most sensitive and sophisticated weapon systems should be 100% sourced and manufactured within our own borders, for example.- I think we need a comprehensive guest worker program for jobs that that Americans don't do like being hunched over all day in the hot sun picking strawberries.
- Make English our official language
- Finish the border fence
- Have a serious educational improvement program that incorporates "edutaiment" into the national culture Educational entertainment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Give tax breaks and political rate access to advertisement to video game developers that incorporate math and science into video gaming so Americans will be equipped for the jobs of the future.
- Expand INS or create a wing thereof to advance America culture outside of our borders, in particularly our Sothern border. Rebroadcast American radio and TV stations on channels in Mexico. If so many Mexicans want to pursue the American Dream, get Mexico to start teaching US History, US Civics and English every year throughout school. Then when they get here its less of an adjustment.
- America business create opportunities in Mexico for things that cannot be done in America just as tropical agriculture and tourism. Bring a certain percentage of American workers and managers with them.
- I think we need a comprehensive guest worker program for jobs that that Americans don't do like being hunched over all day in the hot sun picking strawberries.
- Make English our official language
- Finish the border fence
- Have a serious educational improvement program that incorporates "edutaiment" into the national culture Educational entertainment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Give tax breaks and political rate access to advertisement to video game developers that incorporate math and science into video gaming so Americans will be equipped for the jobs of the future.
- Expand INS or create a wing thereof to advance America culture outside of our borders, in particularly our Sothern border. Rebroadcast American radio and TV stations on channels in Mexico. If so many Mexicans want to pursue the American Dream, get Mexico to start teaching US History, US Civics and English every year throughout school. Then when they get here its less of an adjustment.
- America business create opportunities in Mexico for things that cannot be done in America just as tropical agriculture and tourism. Bring a certain percentage of American workers and managers with them.
Thought provoking ideas. However, the main thrust of illegal immigration is not to become part of the US, with all that such a thing means, but to exploit what is being made available
to them with little risk.
The illegals are primarily failures from failed cultures, who care little about the impact of their law breaking. Reasonable evidence of this mindset was on display during the recent World Cup match featuring Mexico. In some areas in Southern California, riot police were called out to deal with the Mexican Flag waving fans, while to my knowledge, none were called out during the US Team matches.
A rational guest worker program has never been an issue. It's the illegal alien peasants who come here to exploit the country that needs to be dealt with.
Thought provoking ideas. However, the main thrust of illegal immigration is not to become part of the US, with all that such a thing means, but to exploit what is being made available
to them with little risk.
The illegals are primarily failures from failed cultures, who care little about the impact of their law breaking. Reasonable evidence of this mindset was on display during the recent World Cup match featuring Mexico. In some areas in Southern California, riot police were called out to deal with the Mexican Flag waving fans, while to my knowledge, none were called out during the US Team matches.
A rational guest worker program has never been an issue. It's the illegal alien peasants who come here to exploit the country that needs to be dealt with.
I think you're wrong.mass immigration is NOW LEGAL.
We loose 80,000 jobs EVERY MONTH to LEGAL immigrants, and millions more to illegals.
Time to deport them all, and end ALL IMMIGRATION. Untill ALL US CITIZENS have a living wage job.
When a criminal state like WA spends $300 million a year on foreign criminals, and does not allow a US CITIZEN
to buy $10 in paid pills.
ITS TIME FOR CIVIL WAR 2, AND TO KILL ALL FOREIGN CRIMINALS AND ALL THIER SUPPORTERS.
Excellent post! :thumbs: We don't see that behavior from immigrants who come here legally! Why the government expects us to just kow-tow to lawbreakers is ridiculous and insulting. If we were to stop providing endless benefits to them, I would expect to see outrage and lots of screaming. Would they go back home; would they change their attitude that we owe them something; or would they riot because they're angry the gravy train has left the station, and they can't continue to scam the system? WTH? BTW, trafficing in children is illegal, and just about the lowest you can get to advance an agenda, IMO. :thumbdown:
Greetings, ocean515. :2wave:
mass immigration is NOW LEGAL.
We loose 80,000 jobs EVERY MONTH to LEGAL immigrants, and millions more to illegals.
Time to deport them all, and end ALL IMMIGRATION. Untill ALL US CITIZENS have a living wage job.
When a criminal state like WA spends $300 million a year on foreign criminals, and does not allow a US CITIZEN
to buy $10 in paid pills.
ITS TIME FOR CIVIL WAR 2, AND TO KILL ALL FOREIGN CRIMINALS AND ALL THIER SUPPORTERS.
As I am sure you've seen before, I firmly believe the only way to stop this encouraged invasion is to eliminate the income earning possibilities, and as you wrote, the rewards they receive.
E-Verify to protect diligent employers, punitive fines and incarceration for employers who knowingly hire illegals, no benefits to illegals, and immediate deportation. As numerous cities in Southern California have proven, the economic impact of these peasants is well known, and the rhetoric from their supports is nothing by lies.
Please before you commence to killing...please let me know what I should do to identify myself as an America. Should I sew a flag on my clothing as a sign to patriots?
I found it most interesting that the protestors managed to prevent the buses from dropping off the illegals in your State, and they had to turn around and leave. Is it a matter that there aren't enough jobs available for additional people, or is it something else? To save fuel, I personally think they should have taken them directly to Pelosi's district - she agrees with Obama on immigration, so they would have been welcomed with open arms - right? I'm sure they would! :mrgreen:
I'm down. Dump these people in the very districts who are demanding most loudly that we keep them.
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