Youngest Migrants Held in 'Tender Age' Shelters

Gina · Jun 19, 2018

Now we know where the babies and toddlers are.

Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas, The Associated Press has learned.
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Doctors and lawyers who have visited the shelters said the facilities were fine, clean and safe, but the kids — who have no idea where their parents are — were hysterical, crying and acting out.

"The shelters aren't the problem, it's taking kids from their parents that's the problem," said South Texas pediatrician Marsha Griffin who has visited many.
Alicia Lieberman, who runs the Early Trauma Treatment Network at University of California, San Francisco, said decades of study show early separations can cause permanent emotional damage.

"Children are biologically programmed to grow best in the care of a parent figure. When that bond is broken through long and unexpected separations with no set timeline for reunion, children respond at the deepest physiological and emotional levels," she said. "Their fear triggers a flood of stress hormones that disrupt neural circuits in the brain, create high levels of anxiety, make them more susceptible to physical and emotional illness, and damage their capacity to manage their emotions, trust people, and focus their attention on age-appropriate activities."

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/06/19/us/ap-us-immigration-toddlers-detained.html

There are three of them in Combs, Raymondville and Brownsville. A fourth is scheduled to open in Houston in a warehouse used to shelter hurricane victims. The mayor, Sylvester Turner, asked Southwest Key Programs to reconsider opening it. This is his personal line with these children.

This is unconscionable.

gulfman · Jun 19, 2018

Its unconscionable to separate babies from their mothers at abortion clinics too but it happens every day.

MTAtech · Jun 19, 2018

Trump should be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

Tanngrisnir · Jun 19, 2018

gulfman said:
Its unconscionable to separate babies from their mothers at abortion clinics too but it happens every day.

It's unconscionable to make asinine false equivalencies in a desperate attempt to derail a thread.

CriticalThought · Jun 19, 2018

This is literal child abuse. There is no child welfare expert in the world who would endorse this.

gulfman · Jun 19, 2018

MTAtech said:
Trump should be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

Who gets blamed when an MS13 member rapes a teenager?

PLizzy · Jun 19, 2018

gulfman said:
Its unconscionable to separate babies from their mothers at abortion clinics too but it happens every day.

Sometimes I wonder how people like yourself can show such emotional hysterics for embryonic life, yet show next to zero concern or empathy for actual babies and children once they are born.

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

Gina said:
Now we know where the babies and toddlers are.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/06/19/us/ap-us-immigration-toddlers-detained.html

There are three of them in Combs, Raymondville and Brownsville. A fourth is scheduled to open in Houston in a warehouse used to shelter hurricane victims. The mayor, Sylvester Turner, asked Southwest Key Programs to reconsider opening it. This is his personal line with these children.

This is unconscionable.

We do this all the time everyday when parents are arrested in the us.
If there is not a family member that will take them they go to live in a group home or other such state run institution.

So what is the difference?

PLizzy · Jun 19, 2018

gulfman said:
Who gets blamed when an MS13 member rapes a teenager?

What does that have to do with this thread? Oh right, absolutely **** all.

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

CriticalThought said:
This is literal child abuse. There is no child welfare expert in the world who would endorse this.

Yet child welfare experts do it all the time.

EMNofSeattle · Jun 19, 2018

Gina said:
Now we know where the babies and toddlers are.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/06/19/us/ap-us-immigration-toddlers-detained.html

There are three of them in Combs, Raymondville and Brownsville. A fourth is scheduled to open in Houston in a warehouse used to shelter hurricane victims. The mayor, Sylvester Turner, asked Southwest Key Programs to reconsider opening it. This is his personal line with these children.

This is unconscionable.

Actually it’s perfectly conscionable, their “parents” (or unrelated smugglers) shouldn’t have showed up illegally at the border, get caught, and refused to plead guilty and file a frivolous asylum claim. Also we can’t just hand children over to custody of someone who may not even be their real parent, which is a very frequent occurrence, Obama’s gone so we don’t hand kids over to human traffickers anymore

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

gulfman said:
Who gets blamed when an MS13 member rapes a teenager?

You don't know what you are talking about.
Your hurting more than helping.

PLizzy · Jun 19, 2018

ludin said:
We do this all the time everyday when parents are arrested in the us.
If there is not a family member that will take them they go to live in a group home or other such state run institution.

So what is the difference?

The children are being kept even after their parents are deported, so no cigar for your chicken **** deflection.

CriticalThought · Jun 19, 2018

ludin said:
Yet child welfare experts do it all the time.

When there is a clear and present danger to the child, not because the parent broke a misdemeanor law.

Amelia · Jun 19, 2018

ludin said:
We do this all the time everyday when parents are arrested in the us.
If there is not a family member that will take them they go to live in a group home or other such state run institution.

So what is the difference?

Parents who commit misdemeanors don't usually get their children snatched away from them and put in warehouses.

These children are being emotionally abused so that Trump can blackmail Democrats into paying for a wall that Trump said Americans wouldn't have to pay for.

Trump is flat out evil. People who defend Trump have left their consciences at the door.

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

MTAtech said:
Trump should be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

Should we do the same to all the social service people that yank kids out of their homes?
When their parents have committed crimes as well?

EMNofSeattle · Jun 19, 2018

CriticalThought said:
This is literal child abuse. There is no child welfare expert in the world who would endorse this.

Well except the welfare expert who seized those black children from a responsible aunt and they ended up getting adopted by mentally ill activist lesbians who drove them off a cliff

Gina · Jun 19, 2018

CriticalThought said:
This is literal child abuse. There is no child welfare expert in the world who would endorse this.

The American Academy of Pediatrics had already condemned the policy.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/18/6211...about-trauma-migrant-children-are-experiencin

However, you walk into the toddler room and we normally see kids who are toddlers rambunctious and are running around and laughing and playing. And you didn't see that there. What we saw were a number of little kids keeping pretty quiet to themselves, some of them playing with toys, and one little girl in the center of the room who was sobbing and wailing and crying.

And the staff person next to her who was trying to give her a toy was not able to touch her and was not able to pick her up and was not able to emotionally support her. And we all knew what the problem was. We all knew that this little child needed her mother, and none of us could give that to her.

It's incredibly damaging to the development of their brain.

PLizzy · Jun 19, 2018

EMNofSeattle said:
Actually it’s perfectly conscionable, their “parents” (or unrelated smugglers) shouldn’t have showed up illegally at the border, get caught, and refused to plead guilty and file a frivolous asylum claim. Also we can’t just hand children over to custody of someone who may not even be their real parent, which is a very frequent occurrence, Obama’s gone so we don’t hand kids over to human traffickers anymore

So? Deport them and give them their ****ing kids. Prosecuting every last person that brakes immigration processes is not only impractical and stupid, it results in inhuman situations like these.

But you guys love this stuff deep down.

MTAtech · Jun 19, 2018

ludin said:
We do this all the time everyday when parents are arrested in the us.
If there is not a family member that will take them they go to live in a group home or other such state run institution.

So what is the difference?

No, we don't. These babies are away from their parents, who get deported, never to be reunited.

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

Amelia said:
Parents who commit misdemeanors don't usually get their children snatched away from them and put in warehouses.

No they go to group homes, or other state run institutions if a family member won't take them or one that can be found that passes the standards.

These children are being emotionally abused so that Trump can blackmail Democrats into paying for a wall that Trump said Americans wouldn't have to pay for.

So we're the children that obama administration put into the hands of child traffickers. Where is your outrage over that.
At least try to be consistent I doubt that you can.

Trump is flat out evil. People who defend Trump have left their consciences at the door.

The police are evil as well? How about CPS? they take kids every day from babies to teens.

PLizzy · Jun 19, 2018

Amelia said:
Parents who commit misdemeanors don't usually get their children snatched away from them and put in warehouses.

These children are being emotionally abused so that Trump can blackmail Democrats into paying for a wall that Trump said Americans wouldn't have to pay for.

Trump is flat out evil. People who defend Trump have left their consciences at the door.

They are only making November a much easier decision for the rest of the country.

gulfman · Jun 19, 2018

MovingPictures said:
The children are being kept even after their parents are deported, so no cigar for your chicken **** deflection.

Send the kids back with their parents

TobyMeyers · Jun 19, 2018

Gina said:
Now we know where the babies and toddlers are.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/06/19/us/ap-us-immigration-toddlers-detained.html

There are three of them in Combs, Raymondville and Brownsville. A fourth is scheduled to open in Houston in a warehouse used to shelter hurricane victims. The mayor, Sylvester Turner, asked Southwest Key Programs to reconsider opening it. This is his personal line with these children.

This is unconscionable.

What are the cons of this?
any?
Higher welfare bills for the taxpayers for one? this is not true.

Your bleeding heart never seems to take into account the cons of this does it?
and how it affects americans.

Look at hazelton Pa.. everybody moved out due to this stuff.. did u study this?
they did not think this was an upgrade .. did they?

What percentage of Latinos are on welfare in usa Gina? I bet u have never even studied this one.
the liberal bubble strikes again folks . Or do u have a background on this?

Do u know what the Rob Putnam study is Gina?
its only the largest and most famous study ever done on diversity but you never heard of it right ? lol
the liberal bubble strikes again.. if i'm wrong let me know.. Do you know what the Rob putnam study is?
it showed that diversity creates social conflict not social cohesion.

ludin · Jun 19, 2018

MTAtech said:
No, we don't. These babies are away from their parents, who get deported, never to be reunited.

Evidence that they are getting deported without their kids?
Yes we do.

You evidently have never heard of CPS.

they regularly take kids from their parents because a crime was committed and depending in that crime they may never see their kids again.

Youngest Migrants Held in 'Tender Age' Shelters

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Youngest Migrants Held in 'Tender Age' Shelters

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