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Yellen Urges Marshall Plan for Ukraine to Meet Massive Need

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Yellen Urges Marshall Plan for Ukraine to Meet Massive Need

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5.17.22
US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen issued a call for large-scale economic assistance to Ukraine, warning that the amounts of help pledged to date won’t even meet short-term needs as the nation struggles with the devastation wrought by Russia’s invasion.US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen issued a call for large-scale economic assistance to Ukraine, warning that the amounts of help pledged to date won’t even meet short-term needs as the nation struggles with the devastation wrought by Russia’s invasion. “Eventually, Ukraine will need massive support and private investment for reconstruction and recovery, akin to the task of rebuilding in Europe after 1945,” Yellen said in a speech in Brussels Tuesday. “What’s clear is that the bilateral and multilateral support announced so far will not be sufficient to address Ukraine’s needs, even in the short term.” The US, which assembled the Marshall Plan to help much of Europe recover after World War II, is currently preparing a $40 billion package for Ukraine, expected to win final passage in the Senate as soon as Wednesday.

“I sincerely ask all our partners to join us in increasing their financial support to Ukraine,” Yellen said. “Our joint efforts are critical to help ensure Ukraine’s democracy prevails over Putin’s aggression,” she said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion. Yellen also on Tuesday met with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who later tweeted that the discussion included a European Commission aid proposal for Ukraine that’s expected to be unveiled Wednesday. Yellen highlighted the power of US-European cooperation in preventing Russia from trying to “play off some of us against others.” She also said that if Putin continues the war, Washington will work with European and other partners “to push Russia further towards economic, financial, and strategic isolation.” Yellen reiterated US support for helping Europe reduce its reliance on Russia as a source of energy, while calling for further efforts to transition toward renewable sources.
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It has been 60 years since a US ally (South Korea) has been as devastated by war.
 
She's right. The means to have Russia pay for this have to be found. The lesson has to be that if you invade another country there's going to be no economic benefit derived from the action.
 
Did Yellen advocate a corporate "death tax" on US "defense" contractors to counter the destruction of the US proxy war in Ukraine?
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https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-04-...antly-sending-weapons--19vV80rnhSM/index.html

"By passing the lend-lease act, the U.S. seems to have decided to continuously add fuel to the fire.

"As The American Conservative magazine puts, the U.S is trying to prolong the war 'to the last Ukrainian.'

"But as the world's arsenal, the U.S. is profiteering and remains well positioned to reap even more after the conflict."
 
Allan said:
She's right. The means to have Russia pay for this have to be found. The lesson has to be that if you invade another country there's going to be no economic benefit derived from the action.
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What's the market like for super-yachts these days? Good? bad?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Russia's forces are getiing their asses kicked.
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Or you are being lied to.
According to some accounts, Ukraine's Donbass defenses are slowly collapsing:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-may-19/liveblog/91652854.cms

Russian shelling of the eastern Ukraine city of Severodonetsk left at least 12 people dead and another 40 injured, the region's governor Sergei Gaiday said on Thursday, as Moscow' army continued its slow push into Donbas
 
georgephillip said:
Or you are being lied to.
According to some accounts, Ukraine's Donbass defenses are slowly collapsing:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-may-19/liveblog/91652854.cms

Russian shelling of the eastern Ukraine city of Severodonetsk left at least 12 people dead and another 40 injured, the region's governor Sergei Gaiday said on Thursday, as Moscow' army continued its slow push into Donbas
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While Russia may gain in Donbas, they lose in Kharkiv. Ukraine forces are a spit's distance from the Russian border
 
Roadvirus said:
While Russia may gain in Donbas, they lose in Kharkiv. Ukraine forces are a spit's distance from the Russian border
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Defeating the Russian Army in the Donbass has to be the goal of the Ukrainian Army.
 
Roadvirus said:
While Russia may gain in Donbas, they lose in Kharkiv. Ukraine forces are a spit's distance from the Russian border
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The reports I'm hearing this morning claim Ukrainian forces are being pushed back from Russia's border. Capturing Donbass and the land corridor seems like Putin's goal which, from a Russian standpoint, could result in Ukraine disintegrating into several states with the blame falling on Ukrainian and Western hatred of Russia.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589
 
Juin said:
Defeating the Russian Army in the Donbass has to be the goal of the Ukrainian Army.
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The next Ukrainian focus will probably be in the South, not Donbas. Retaking Kherson is a must, would be a symbolic victory for Ukraine, and a symbolic defeat for Russia, which would influence morale of both armies. Furthermore the Russian defences in Kherson are not as entrenched as in Donbas, but a Ukrainian push in the south would force Russia to move troops from Donbas to the south.
 
georgephillip said:
The reports I'm hearing this morning claim Ukrainian forces are being pushed back from Russia's border. Capturing Donbass and the land corridor seems like Putin's goal which, from a Russian standpoint, could result in Ukraine disintegrating into several states with the blame falling on Ukrainian and Western hatred of Russia.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589
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You're using a map from May 8th! :LOL:
 
Juin said:
Defeating the Russian Army in the Donbass has to be the goal of the Ukrainian Army.
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In time. With the help of NATO weapons, they will do just that.
 
Juin said:
Defeating the Russian Army in the Donbass has to be the goal of the Ukrainian Army.
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joluoto said:
The next Ukrainian focus will probably be in the South, not Donbas. Retaking Kherson is a must, would be a symbolic victory for Ukraine, and a symbolic defeat for Russia, which would influence morale of both armies. Furthermore the Russian defences in Kherson are not as entrenched as in Donbas, but a Ukrainian push in the south would force Russia to move troops from Donbas to the south.
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The point is the primary goal of an Army in the field is taking out the opposing Army, not capturing territories. It goes without saying that once the opposing Army is taken out the territories are there to be picked up. That goes for both Russia and Ukraine.

There is a Russian Army in Kherson. Obviously Russia wants to keep it. And as equally obbvious the Russians will accept a challenge. So it makes sense for Ukraine to attack there. And it may force Russia to move troops from Donbass to Kherson.

I was addressing the case of Donbass and Ukraine mounting an offensive in Kharkiv. I see merits for that offensive if it is to push the Russians beyond artillery range of Kharkiv. But that was not the goal as given to media. The media suggested grandiose goals that have to be beyond the abilities of the Ukrainian Army in Kharkiv. A big offensive over a huge distance to cut off rail lines from Belgorod to the Donbass. My impression is that tha is way beyond the abilities of Ukraine's Kharkiv garrison. The Russian General in command in Donbass will just ignore it. The Kharkiv Ukrainian Army will just spend itself without aiding the beseiged Ukrainian garrisons in Donbass in any way
 
Roadvirus said:
You're using a map from May 8th
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Kharkiv is the same (spitting) distance from Russia today as it was on May 8th.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

"Russian forces are continuing their slow advance in the east of the country after using heavy firepower to weaken Ukraine's defences.
Here are the latest developments:
  • Bombardment of Donbas region by Russia forces is intensifying
  • Russian troops withdrawn from Kharkiv redeployed in Donetsk
  • Russia preparing offensive to take key city of Severodonetsk
  • Ongoing build-up of Russian navy around Snake Island"
How many more Ukrainians have to die for regime change in Russia?o_O
 
georgephillip said:
Kharkiv is the same (spitting) distance from Russia today as it was on May 8th.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

"Russian forces are continuing their slow advance in the east of the country after using heavy firepower to weaken Ukraine's defences.
Here are the latest developments:
  • Bombardment of Donbas region by Russia forces is intensifying
  • Russian troops withdrawn from Kharkiv redeployed in Donetsk
  • Russia preparing offensive to take key city of Severodonetsk
  • Ongoing build-up of Russian navy around Snake Island"
How many more Ukrainians have to die for regime change in Russia?o_O
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Ukrainians are at the Russian border northeast of Kharkiv.
 
georgephillip said:
Kharkiv is the same (spitting) distance from Russia today as it was on May 8th.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

"Russian forces are continuing their slow advance in the east of the country after using heavy firepower to weaken Ukraine's defences.
Here are the latest developments:
  • Bombardment of Donbas region by Russia forces is intensifying
  • Russian troops withdrawn from Kharkiv redeployed in Donetsk
  • Russia preparing offensive to take key city of Severodonetsk
  • Ongoing build-up of Russian navy around Snake Island"
How many more Ukrainians have to die for regime change in Russia?o_O
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Last time I checked Ukrainians were fighting for Ukraine.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Don't foist your comprehension problems on others.
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A Just Peace ( as opposed to a Just War) approach to ending military operations in Ukraine begins with identifying the root causes of the conflict as well as the genuine needs of the adversaries.

Do you comprehend U$ responsibility for creating this proxy conflict and the motive$ behind it?

https://www.americamagazine.org/pol.../22/just-peace-approach-ukraine-russia-242441

"Acknowledgement of responsibility. The United States could publicly acknowledge the role it played by interfering, via financial and public support to opposition candidates, in the Ukrainian elections in 2014 (just as we would object if Russia supported an anti-U.S. candidate in a Mexican election) and now by supplying weapons to that government.

"This would give NATO the moral authority to invite Russia to acknowledge responsibility for their harm in supplying weapons and troops to partisans in eastern Ukraine and also interfering in elections.

"The parties could explore processes for accountability through restorative justice mechanisms."
 
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