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Actually, I believe Texas V White established that succession is possible if the seceding state can obtain the permission of the rest of the states.
While unlikely anytime too soon, it's not unthinkable that one day, Texas might vote to secede from the United States and re-establish itself as an independent nation.
If done in a peaceful and democratic manner...that is, if the people of Texas overwhelmingly voted to withdraw from the U.S. In a referendum similar to the one recently held in Scotland, would you support the right of Texas to go her own way?
Texas has all these things. There are a few very vocal groups in Texas who simply whine about not getting what they want during elections, which is hilarious since they do a lot of crap in Texas that many people in the other states find absolutely stupid, abhorrent, or just shake their heads over. This tells me that they have plenty of self determination and those whining otherwise are more like little kids or teenagers with a mindset that if they didn't have their parents around, their lives would be so much better.
What national unity?
Wrong, their is, Their is nation in the Constitution which forbids it.
SCOTUS couldnt have said it any better years ago.
They joined the perpetual Union, outside of revolution, they cannot UNILATERALLY secede.
There is no Constitutional mechanism for secession so for Texas or any state to leave it's via a Constitutional amendment or a successful rebellion. Neither is happening in the foreseeable future.
SCOTUS couldnt have said it any better years ago.
They joined the perpetual Union, outside of revolution, they cannot UNILATERALLY secede.
If Texas were to become independent it would have to assume its part of the Federal debt and service that debt at probably substantially higher intrest rates.
Nope, that's not how secession or "federal" debt work
A. Texas could simply vote to leave. Are you going to send troops in to Dallas? The American people would NEVER have the stomach for a bloody war against their own kin...and a number of southern states may even be sympathetic to our cause.
B. Texas does have a legal right to divide itself in to 5 states at any time. Is the U.S. Govt really going to accept 10 senators from Texas? Hell no, they'll kick us out first.
C. We can simply refuse to appoint any federal judges or hire any federal employees...simply letting the positions go unfilled. Then we can simply ignore federal law and that would be secession by default. See point A....us wouldn't really be able to do anything about it
New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.
C - Secession was tried once before. You really want to tempt fate again?
Not really that stupid of an idea, Texas has a balanced budget, and just about every natural resource a nation could be blessed with.
Actually we can, question is would you handle the breakup with grace and dignity, or would you try to cling and beg
Oh but it is. You can't become an independent state as a "successor state" of an existing state and not assume your part of international obligations.
Oh Dear Lord no.
We'd be conquered by Mexico within the first month. You have to remember that all of the US Armed Forces in our state would be moving out.
Texas has the wealth, the know-how, and the population to more than hold their own. Besides, we defeated the Mexicans once before.
So much for 'inalienable' rights, eh? You get one chance to sign them away and poof! they're gone.
Did the U.S. pay debt money to the crown of England after it declared independence?
Y'know, that "America, Hell Yeah!" sort of thing.
Texas has the wealth, the know-how, and the population to more than hold their own. Besides, we defeated the Mexicans once before.
Things might be different if the 49 other states basically say, "Fine, secede, and please don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out."
What currency would you use? And how much do you think it would be worth if you defaulted on your share of the US national debt? Ask Argentina and Greece how default, or the threat of it, affects your economy.
A - What is the legal basis for this? What provision in the Constitution gives any state the legal authority to leave? There is none. Texas can certainly vote to leave - the vote would not be legal and US could if it desired legally use force to keep Texas in the United States.
B - Article IV Section 3
C - Secession was tried once before. You really want to tempt fate again?
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