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There were points on the berlin wall where people could pass through....
GDR claimed the same thing.
Except it didnt work.
A wall on our border wouldn't be meant to restrict all movement as there would certainly be entry points along the wall that people could legitimately pass through.
GDR claimed the same thing.A wall along our border is meant to stop ONLY illegal activity.
Except it didnt work.The Great Wall of China would be a more apt description.
There were points on the berlin wall where people could pass through....
GDR claimed the same thing.
Except it didnt work.
I know. AKA illegal citizens, because of their political beliefs.Actually the claim was to prevent fascists from entering the country.
Never said it did. Never said it'd work here either. Frankly I think a wall is unnecessary. There are much better ways to keep illegals out of this country. People just have to have the gonads to do so.
Fallacy Identification Fail. You stated:
Examples of where militarized borders have, in fact, a very important place in free countries (ie: helping them to maintain that status) are rather germane to that claimEven if presented sarcastically
Ah. So it is your opinion that South Korea would be freer if they were to allow North Korea to dominate them?
Na. Ill rather not look like the Berlin Wall.
The Berlin Wall kept people in.. Try again.
Why does no one ever propose this? Replace Homeland Security (or whoever guards the Southern border) and ICE with the National Guard or the Army; all new recruits would be required to protect the border for a period of time. Fortify and secure the border and no one would even think of crossing because even if they get over that wall they will have guns pointing at them from the other side. It worked well for Austria until they joined the Schengen area. I'm not just talking about building a taller wall but complete militarization of the border. It solves your illegal immigration issue for sure and will greatly reduce trafficking of all kinds across the border. What do you Americans think especially those who live near the border?
I know. AKA illegal citizens, because of their political beliefs.
Ok....
The fence idea is to be honest, an idiotic idea. We do have other borders that people can get through after all. Unless you want to surround the whole of the US with walls? No, the best way to handle illegal immigration is to make it to where they get nothing when they are here. No housing. No medical unless it is for immediate life saving reasons. No anchor babies allowed. No jobs. No education.
And a wall on the US Mexico border is designed to do what? Keep people in Mexico...
Not a false identification. You stated:
That is, by definition, a strawman.
Be tricky; not sure exactly how Posse Comitatus might apply.
Might get messy too. Military is for killing people and breaking stuff.
And a wall on the US Mexico border is designed to do what? Keep people in Mexico...
A wall to keep people out is about a row or two of barbed wire from a wall to keep people in.
Be tricky; not sure exactly how Posse Comitatus might apply.
Might get messy too. Military is for killing people and breaking stuff.
Comparing border security to the Berlin Wall is stupid. You know that, right?
No, denying the similarity would be stupid.
And a wall on the US Mexico border is designed to do what? Keep people in Mexico...
First of all more then mexicans sneak in thru our southern border. So a force on the border would be to keep people out.. Try again
The comparison is the strawman of the year.
...Would the wall be built on Mexico's southern border, too?And.... Keep them in Mexico...
Immigrants from abroad would still have to find the means to get here, not to mention contrary to what many Americans believe that vast majority of people in the world have no desire to move here. In order to receive welfare benefits (such as TANF) one must be a citizen. Granting legal residency more freely, as opposed to citizenship right away, would be an easy way to solve the potential problem.That would result in the creation of mass dependency and an increase influx of immigrants from abroad.
You can have an open borders immigration policy. And you can have a generous social safety net. But you cannot have both.
More realistically, we just spent the last decade or so painfully learning a lot of counterinsurgency lessons really well. Why don't we employ them south of the border against the Narco's?
So you don't understand a strawman either. No surprise.
How about we ship a couple hundred thousand illegals to England?
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