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The strength of one's positions can certainly identify one as moderate. The degree of mixing of someone's positions can certainly identify one as independent. Both concepts are valid positions.
'Moderate' doesn't mean anything for anyone's total political outlook to define them as one.
'Independent' can only mean you make up your own mind, which everyone already does anyway.
'Unaffiliated' is simply the lack of affiliation. It's not a positive 'I belong to this group' political identity. Ironically, taking the 'unaffiliated' label affiliates you with the 'unaffiliated', making them all a group, which they claim they are not yet shot themselves in the foot by taking the label.
DP doesn't have 'left' or 'right' in it's list of leans. Are you suggesting that Vauge add them, and delete 'libertarian' in accordance with your view that libertarians are on the right?
Moderate means that one's political outlook is within a certain standard deviation, not on the tail end or on the mid-ends.
Independent means someone has a mix of issues regardless of where they fall on the standard deviations of each of those issues.
Being part of the "unaffiliated" group is a misnomer. It's not a group at all. It's nothing more than a placeholder at DP.
I thought we were referring to political movements in the United States, not on debate politics specifically.
That's a Centrist.
Don't we all.
I thought DP had a default group for those who were simply staff and not mods, such as the Bar Tender and the lol'basement-team'. Is this not so?
What if DP gave all staff colors for their leans regardless of staff status?
Correct you are. I'll reiterate that I would like to see every liberal disposed of.
Not necessarily. I see a very minor distinction. I see a Centrist as a tighter version of a Moderate.
We love you too, Jerry.
Correct you are. I'll reiterate that I would like to see every liberal disposed of.
If I was right about political movements in the United States, then why did you refer to debate politics?
Because we're running 12 hour 'Quick Reaction Force' shifts around the clock monitoring the floods in Pierre and I wasn't exactly paying as much attention as I should haveeace
You love my money, at least.
Fiscal liberals are a lot like my X-wife in their love for spending my income on frivolous bull****. I'm not exactly on the best of terms with my X right now, and I think it's fair to say my regard for fiscal liberals reflects this.
If I got a phone call telling me my X had died in a car accident, that would be a good day.
That's about how I feel about liberals also.
Deep down, we all would.
This question is similar to asking:
"If you could control time and space, would you steal money from casino vaults, etc?"
Of course on here we'd say no. But deep down, Hell yes we would, with style.
People say they won't, because they're on a public forum.
Ever wish to know the hidden truth?
If you grip the reigns of such concentrated power, you will commit atrocities.
Do not lie to yourself, or others.
Oh, yeah, frivolous bull****. You mean like yachts and gold plated toilets? Or were you referring to extravagances such as food for starving people and health care for sick people?
Like paying the bills of other grown, perfectly capable adults who can and should be paying their own bills, but don't because you're providing them a check for nothing; ie extended unemployment benefits, loos standards on SNAP, etc.
I am not the rich. I've never made enough money to buy a yacht or a gold plated toilet, but my X has used child-support to pay the bills for an apartment full of capable adults. You people are wasting my money in exactly the same way. You can bitch and argue and fight with me all you like, just like she does, it doesn't change anything.
Like paying the bills of other grown, perfectly capable adults who can and should be paying their own bills, but don't because you're providing them a check for nothing; ie extended unemployment benefits, loos standards on SNAP, etc.
I am not the rich. I've never made enough money to buy a yacht or a gold plated toilet, but my X has used child-support to pay the bills for an apartment full of capable adults. You people are wasting my money in exactly the same way. You can bitch and argue and fight with me all you like, just like she does, it doesn't change anything.
I think thread has jumped the track. I'd really like to see it stay focused on the topic.
Thanks...
Anyway, have you actually tried to find a job recently? I have, and it's not easy.
How, exactly, are those people supposed to pay their own bills?
Not that welfare is a good solution, but this system doesnt leave a whole lot of other options. It demands that you work full time to support yourself, but then doesnt provide enough employment for that to be possible for everyone.
Scuse me? Does the child still exist, and require food, clothing and shelter? IS the child, fed, clothed, and sheltered? Then you have no right to bitch.
Scuse me? Does the child still exist, and require food, clothing and shelter?
IS the child, fed, clothed, and sheltered?
Then you have no right to bitch.
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