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Red herring.
All I'm saying is that you sound like the only rights allowed someone is what you believe.
If you don't smoke, you don't think anyone else has the right to.
If you're straight then gay marriage is not a right.
I mean, it's not (it's a privilege)...but I think you can understand where I'm coming from.
Hopefully.
If I don't think people should have the right to something, I would vote against legislation allowing it. So I guess your statement is probably true.
That's the only important sentence. Truth is that your beliefs will determine whether they have a right. Everything else is gravy.
Of course I feel that way. Why would I deny it? Especially since I see nothing wrong with that statement.
I am just curious why you seem to think I would be opposed to something I didn't personally do, per your smoking and gay marriage example. That accusation makes no sense.
Simple question. Do you think drug legalization would move a noticeable number of libertarians to another ideology as one of their core issues is resolved to their satisfaction?
So you don't believe that you own your own body and that the government can tell you what you can put it in?
I think its a biased way to ask the question, but as you ask it, not entirely. For example, I see no problems with prostitution being illegal even though the prostitute owns her body and can put penises into it. Such things have to be balanced against the needs of society. In this case, society has a vested interest in both morality and health issues.
So if society deems your favorite food and drink to be bad for you then you would have no problems with it? What if society deems that you need to work 18 hours a day seven days a week to pay for their morality and health you would have no problems with it? What if society deems that the way that you live your life is wrong and if you proceed to do it that you can go to prison for it you would have no problems with it?
I am pretty sure I would have a problem with those things.
So you're stance is pretty hypocritcal when it comes to you and your body, but when it comes to everyone else it's alright with you. At least I'm consistent in my views.
I am sure you are consistent in your view. And I feel I am consistent in mine. Nowhere did I say the prostitute has to like the laws I support, now do I like a lot of laws that conservatives support or anything that does not jive with my personal opinion of right or wrong or like and dislike. However, I recognize everyone's right to participate in society, even if I do not like what may result out of it.
So then you have no problem with the examples I posted?
Are you having trouble comprehending my post?
Nope, I'm just making sure that we're on the same page. On the one hand you say that you wouldn't like it if it was done to you, but you're fine with it as long it is someone else.
To be honest, I was not attempting to make fun, but simply understand the mindset a little better. One of the ways to do that is poke and see where the divisions in the party are.
I think its a biased way to ask the question, but as you ask it, not entirely. For example, I see no problems with prostitution being illegal even though the prostitute owns her body and can put penises into it. Such things have to be balanced against the needs of society. In this case, society has a vested interest in both morality and health issues.
Yes, that is what I said.
Like I said that's a hypocritical stance to take.
I disagree, but you have a right to your opinion.
That I do and I'm a firm believer in the You First Principle.
That I do and I'm a firm believer in the You First Principle.
I believe in the $person balanced with $society principal. Neither should be first and neither should be secondary.
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