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Eh, I'm no history buff so I'm left with those presidents in my lifetime. It's almost a tossup between Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush, but since Bush had twice as long to **** things up and got us into two decades-long wars, George W. has my vote.
I voted for Grant, though Taft had a pretty ****ty presidency as well. I don't even know why Bush or Obama are there. They pale in comparison to the worst of the worst, and neither one was/is really that bad.
some have argued that if Carter had squashed the violation of our sovereignty we'd have far less cockroaches pissing on our boots over there now
He was a complete *****. And that was his best quality. That's why he's on my short list.
]Obama seems to have messed up what Pelosi and Dingy Harry startedJames Buchanan.
The mess that George W. left for Obama? Magnify that times about a hundred, and that's what Buchanan did to Lincoln.
We have a poll for the best, which has mostly devolved into a thread about the worst president anyway.
My personal choice is Andrew Johnson, who massively screwed up Reconstruction and whose effects were worse than some other incompetent presidents around the time.
Options chosen from those who are traditionally seen as the worst presidents, along with some names mentioned by DP members in the other thread.
I know why President Obama was included, but really he shouldn't have been. You just can't evaluate a sitting president in terms of best and worst. It takes some cooling down and a few decades for the real story to be seen beyond the partisan flak. Nixon is a great example.
Interesting you didn't put Nixon on there as an option. Nixon actually was definitely not the worst, but even 10 years ago, he would have probably won the poll. Certainly 20 years ago he would have. I guess time heals all wounds.
I was actually going to put Nixon on there, but I decided to remove him when I remembered I needed to include an "other" option. I don't think he was close to the worst president though in terms of policy, just gets a bad rap due to Watergate.
I was actually going to put Nixon on there, but I decided to remove him when I remembered I needed to include an "other" option. I don't think he was close to the worst president though in terms of policy, just gets a bad rap due to Watergate.
My vote is Barack Obama. He must be the biggest finger pointer in the entire history of the White House. He also golfs too much.We have a poll for the best, which has mostly devolved into a thread about the worst president anyway.
My personal choice is Andrew Johnson, who massively screwed up Reconstruction and whose effects were worse than some other incompetent presidents around the time.
Options chosen from those who are traditionally seen as the worst presidents, along with some names mentioned by DP members in the other thread.
Agreed, that and his propensity for taping got him in trouble
One quibble - the "infiltration of lots of peaceful domestic political organizations" - that was Hoover and started well before Nixon took office. J. Edgar had the nuclear option to hold over multiple presidents, including Nixon.
some have argued that if Carter had squashed the violation of our sovereignty we'd have far less cockroaches pissing on our boots over there now
“It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.”
“No individual president can compare to the second Bush,” wrote one. “Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.”“With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct,” said another historian. “When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of areas: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life.”
Carter and Obama ... worst ever!
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