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Really, which presidents have? Please name them, this should be good.
That's like saying Hitlers actions were the perception of time, and hence he wasn't one of the worst person in the world.
Jackson first signed into the Indian Expulsion Act, which is absolutely horrible and inhumane. It did not have bipartisan support. His policies killed nearly half of the Indians in the US and he stole their homeland. You remember trail of tears?
Jackson had no respect for the Supreme court and the system of checks and balances.
Jackson did reduce the debt, but the previous President did most of the job. He just finished it by causing a property bubble. The property bubble and his silly economic policies caused a huge economic depression.
Jackson created the spoils system, which is hiring your friends to important positions, instead of the ones who are qualified.
Jackson first signed into the Indian Expulsion Act, which is absolutely horrible and inhumane. It did not have bipartisan support. His policies killed nearly half of the Indians in the US and he stole their homeland. You remember trail of tears?
Jackson had no respect for the Supreme court and the system of checks and balances.
Jackson did reduce the debt, but the previous President did most of the job. He just finished it by causing a property bubble. The property bubble and his silly economic policies caused a huge economic depression.
Jackson created the spoils system, which is hiring your friends to important positions, instead of the ones who are qualified.
Generally true, but as I recall, President Eisenhower retired on his farm in Gettysburg, shunning the spotlite....which was respected...Today, this would not be, the media and people tend to be far too nosy...Just about every former president we have other than Carter has enjoyed trading on their fame in return for big dollars. Is this a shock to you or some new information you were not aware or?
Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "
Let's see who agrees with him.
The quote narrows it to modern presidents only, but the poll includes presidents who weren't in the modern era. There's an inconsistency here.Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "
Let's see who agrees with him.
Taken in context, this is correct. In a general overall sense, a president's term cannot be effectively judged until after they have been out of office for a time. You need time to let their policies and actions shake out to see what they really did. It has not been uncommon for a president to either rise or fall in public opinion several years after they left office when people realize what that president did to or for them.Any one who thinks that Obama is the worst President is a partisan hack with no ability to understand how a determination like this would be made. Generally, it takes about 10 years after a Presidency to fully understand the impact of that administration. Currently, we can not fully assess the administrations of GWB or Obama. Anyone who believes otherwise has no credibility.
For the most part I agree with this. Carter has been a fine ex-president. My only complaint is that it seems the past 10+/- years he's starting to get a little full of himself and he's believing his own press releases, so to speak.While Carter was indeed a failed president, he is the model for excellence after leaving office. He is perhaps the only one who has not whored himself out to the highest bidder.
As a child or as a young adult, I'd agree, but with some knowledge passed thru my head over the years.....those who are conservative are not so hot....what really counts is the greatness of the people...we do have a ways to go....So far as I'm concerned you're talking about one of the three Greatest Presidents of all time when you discuss Andrew Jackson.
As a child or as a young adult, I'd agree, but with some knowledge passed thru my head over the years.....those who are conservative are not so hot....what really counts is the greatness of the people...we do have a ways to go....
Our presidents are not dictators (as some think), which is a good thing.
That's like saying Hitlers actions were the perception of time, and hence he wasn't one of the worst person in the world.
Jackson first signed into the Indian Expulsion Act, which is absolutely horrible and inhumane. It did not have bipartisan support. His policies killed nearly half of the Indians in the US and he stole their homeland. You remember trail of tears?
Jackson had no respect for the Supreme court and the system of checks and balances.
Jackson did reduce the debt, but the previous President did most of the job. He just finished it by causing a property bubble. The property bubble and his silly economic policies caused a huge economic depression.
Jackson created the spoils system, which is hiring your friends to important positions, instead of the ones who are qualified.
While Carter was indeed a failed president, he is the model for excellence after leaving office. He is perhaps the only one who has not whored himself out to the highest bidder.
Are you not aware that Carter wrote well over a dozen books to capitalize on his fame?Just about every former president we have other than Carter has enjoyed trading on their fame in return for big dollars. Is this a shock to you or some new information you were not aware or?
Are you not aware that Carter wrote well over a dozen books to capitalize on his fame?
I am judging him based on the perceptions of our time periods. I am not following the morals of the 1800s. Hitler was no extremist back in the 1930s. Many people supported him, also outside Germany. Jew-bashing was very common across the whole Europe. That doesn't make Hitler's actions any better.All of which were pretty terrible... based on the perceptions of OUR time period. Back then? Not so much. As far as you "Godwining", the perception of the persecution of the Jews was universal with the exception of extremists. Very different scenarios.
Well, I don't even know about any President who has been worse than Andrew Jackson. I mean many sources claim Andrew Johnson is the worst, but at least he just fought any law that would give minorities equal rights. He didn't go out there, cheated them, killed them and stole their homeland.True. I never said Jackson was perfect, but putting him as one of the worst is absurd.
Jackson is no liberterian. Jackson was a populist. Adams reduced the debt from 13% to 7% of GDP per capita.JQ Adams did not do much of the work. Nowadays, Jackson would probably be seen as a Libertarian. His small government policies, appropriate for the time were what reduced the debt. Also, Van Buren worsened the economic crisis by doing nothing, and though Jackson had a part in what happened, The Bank of the US also had a part. Blaming it all on Jackson is inaccurate.
They are from the same party. No wonder he kept jacksons spoils system.Van Buren is the "father" of the modern patronage system. Jackson was the first to take it national.
Damn, you're older than I thought!I voted for Hoover...
Any one who thinks that Obama is the worst President is a partisan hack with no ability to understand how a determination like this would be made. Generally, it takes about 10 years after a Presidency to fully understand the impact of that administration. Currently, we can not fully assess the administrations of GWB or Obama. Anyone who believes otherwise has no credibility.
THAT was the point of this poll.
That and highlight how idiotic Conservative's belief is.
To argue Obama is worse than the Presidents who essentially sent 500,000 Americans to die needlessly is a sign of serious mental issues.
Perhaps that's why almost all of them voted anonymously. Out of 20 votes, 8 of them were anonymous, and 7 of the 8 voted "Obama".
I voted for Hoover, though the poll does not give many good choices. Also, why is that on every poll, the conservative choice is always voted on by visitors? Are these people too embarrassed to log in? Every time I look at a poll and there is a lopsided conservative vote, only like 3 names show up.
I don't know enough history to be aware which president(s) you specifically refer to in the 2nd option.
I'm assuming Lincoln and whoever before him
I mean...talk to one person, X decision by a given president was good.
I am judging him based on the perceptions of our time periods. I am not following the morals of the 1800s. Hitler was no extremist back in the 1930s. Many people supported him, also outside Germany. Jew-bashing was very common across the whole Europe. That doesn't make Hitler's actions any better.
Well, I don't even know about any President who has been worse than Andrew Jackson. I mean many sources claim Andrew Johnson is the worst, but at least he just fought any law that would give minorities equal rights. He didn't go out there, cheated them, killed them and stole their homeland.
Jackson is no liberterian. Jackson was a populist. Adams reduced the debt from 13% to 7% of GDP per capita.
Jackson was the reason for the crisis. When he took power, he said no to renew the charter of Bank of the US and withdrew the money from the national bank and distrubuted it among local banks. The local banks began to heavily overstimate the situation and gave out too many loans to invest in new properties after the removal of the indians. This caused a property bubble, which jackson used to pay off the debt. Also, imports rose too fast and caused a trade deficit.
Then he decided to require only gold and silver as payment for public lands to fight overvaluation. This has disasterous consequences. He crashed the economy, and sent the debt levels back up to when he took office.
They are from the same party. No wonder he kept jacksons spoils system.
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