Words of wisdom, by Pierre Poilievre (1 Viewer)

[Allan]

Ladies and gentlemen the man we're hoping won't be our Prime Minister Monday.

 

[phoenix2020]

Perhaps he can get a job in the Trump admin. Given the US's current political climate, Poilievre would make an excellent US ambassador to Canada.

 

[Allan]

Perhaps he can get a job in the Trump admin. Given the US's current political climate, Poilievre would make an excellent US ambassador to Canada.

The US Embassy is right across the street from Parliament. I don't think Carney wants him that close.

Pierre seems to know a lot about bees. Is there an opening at the USDA?

 

[phoenix2020]

Pierre seems to know a lot about bees. Is there an opening at the USDA?

Well, he sure seems to know his buzzwords.
If the nation swarms away from him, perhaps he can get a bit part as an extra in the Beekeeper franchise?

 

[multivita-man]

Ladies and gentlemen the man we're hoping won't be our Prime Minister Monday.

I don't see how he wins. I think Carney's got this.

 

[Allan]

I don't see how he wins. I think Carney's got this.

Nothing much the Conservatives are doing is working so this weekend they're running 'dark visions of Canada under the Liberals' ads to try to scare us.

They're one step away from hiring Freddy Krueger to frighten us away from the polling places.

 

[Callen]

Here's hoping Monday makes this dolt disappear. The Liberals finally chose a good leader perhaps the Conservatives will have learned their lesson.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I expect most in the room were privately thinking the above

 

[Brusan]

I don't see how he wins. I think Carney's got this.

It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.

While out doing some yardwork, I have to keep reminding myself to stop holding my breath lest I get light headed and fall off my garden tractor. - Still 50 some hours of suspense to go.

It's been Carney's to lose for a few weeks and unless they find a picture of him kicking a kitten he should stroll leisurely across the finish line. BUT . . .

 

[MAGAnificent]

Perhaps he can get a job in the Trump admin. Given the US's current political climate, Poilievre would make an excellent US ambassador to Canada.

Perhaps Rocky or Bullwinkle would be more appropriate?

 

[Brusan]

Perhaps Rocky or Bullwinkle would be more appropriate?

Naah, Boris and Natasha were busily making fools of themselves at the Pope's funeral and performing really impotent stuff like searching out flagpole locates on the Whitehouse lawn saying they've needed them for two hunnert' years while seemingly unaware of that huge pole with a big azz "old glory" right on the freak'n roof.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Naah, they're busily making fools of themselves at the Pope's funeral and performing really impotent stuff like searching out flagpole locates on the Whitehouse lawn saying they've needed them for two hunnert' years while seemingly unaware of that huge pole with a big azz "old glory" right on the freak'n roof.

TDS.

 

[Brusan]

TDS.

Ctrl, Alt, Delete - also a Pavlov default response of the cognitively impaired graduates of the Jimmy Jones U.

 

[joluoto]

Maybe he can be ambassador to that Penguin Island Trump wants to tariff?

 

[gbg3]

While doing my morning news reading today, this was in my newsfeed - about Carney. I know next to nothing about this man expected to win Canada's election this week, so this was informational to me. It's from NYT, so I suppose some might hit a paywall. I didn't, but maybe I haven't tried to open a NYT article in long enough - such that I didn't hit a paywall this time. I'll quote some various paragraphs from the sort of long article, in case others can't open it and have some curiosity in what it is about.

"Asked to name the biggest threat to Canada’s security during an election debate, Mark Carney, the country’s prime minister and Liberal Party leader running to win a full term, gave a surprising answer: “China.”

"Of the various accusations leveled against Mr. Carney as he tries to lead his party to victory in Monday’s election, claims about his allegedly nefarious links to China have been the most persistent."

"In 2020 Mr. Carney became board chairman at Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian investment giant and an investor in China’s property and renewable energy markets."

"He visited China at least twice last year."

"Whatever hat he was wearing, the Mark Carney speaking at the March 2024 event in Beijing sounded different than the Mark Carney of today.

The executives in the room said they would, “unswervingly continue to explore the China market, and develop a long-term close cooperative relationship with China,” according to state media coverage of the meeting.

The Conservative Party of Canada has framed a loan Brookfield received in November from the state-owned Bank of China for its property investments in Shanghai as evidence that Mr. Carney is beholden to Beijing."

“I am very cleareyed about China,” Mr. Carney told reporters this month. “It is the second-largest economy in the world, it is our second-largest trading partner, it is also — and I’ll use my words carefully given that I am briefed on these matters — one of the largest threats with respect to foreign interference.”

In Canada’s Election, Mark Carney’s China Experience Becomes a Liability

Mark Carney, who is running to win a full term as prime minister, has years of experience dealing with Chinese businesses and leadership. It’s become fodder for his opponents.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Allan]

While doing my morning news reading today, this was in my newsfeed - about Carney. I know next to nothing about this man expected to win Canada's election this week, so this was informational to me. It's from NYT, so I suppose some might hit a paywall. I didn't, but maybe I haven't tried to open a NYT article in long enough - such that I didn't hit a paywall this time. I'll quote some various paragraphs from the sort of long article, in case others can't open it and have some curiosity in what it is about.

"Asked to name the biggest threat to Canada’s security during an election debate, Mark Carney, the country’s prime minister and Liberal Party leader running to win a full term, gave a surprising answer: “China.”

Carney was referring to China’s continuing interference in Canadian elections.

"Of the various accusations leveled against Mr. Carney as he tries to lead his party to victory in Monday’s election, claims about his allegedly nefarious links to China have been the most persistent."

"In 2020 Mr. Carney became board chairman at Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian investment giant and an investor in China’s property and renewable energy markets."

"He visited China at least twice last year."

This is what you call "nefarious"?

The executives in the room said they would, “unswervingly continue to explore the China market, and develop a long-term close cooperative relationship with China,” according to state media coverage of the meeting.

Investing in the China market is somehow a bad thing? Every western country including the US has been doing it for decades.

The Conservative Party of Canada has framed a loan Brookfield received in November from the state-owned Bank of China for its property investments in Shanghai as evidence that Mr. Carney is beholden to Beijing."

Carney is no longer with Brookfield. I guess Pierre didn't get the memo.

“I am very cleareyed about China,” Mr. Carney told reporters this month. “It is the second-largest economy in the world, it is our second-largest trading partner, it is also — and I’ll use my words carefully given that I am briefed on these matters — one of the largest threats with respect to foreign interference.”

Makes sense to me especially considering China is a more reliable trading partner than the US.

 

[Allan]

I know next to nothing about this man expected to win Canada's election this week,

I posted Carney's CV a while ago. You might find it helpful.

Bit of a cv for people who don't know who he is...

Born: NWT
Citizenship: Canada/UK/Ireland
Age: 59
Party: Liberal
Education: Harvard (BA), Oxford (DPhil)
Paychecks:
Goldman Sachs
Government of Canada Finance Dept
Governor, Bank of Canada
Governor, Bank of England

As Bank of Canada Governor he was hailed for successfully steering our economy through the recession. He was appointed by the Conservative PM at the time.

He was the first foreign born Bank of England Governor in that institution's history.

Among his many positions since leaving England he's currently Chair of the Board of Bloomberg.

Btw Carney was appointed to the Bank of Canada by a conservative PM. That same conservative PM asked him to be Finance Minister.

 

[gbg3]

This is what you call "nefarious"?

Me? Lol, no, I've never met the NYT authors (one from Canada and one from Hong Kong) who wrote the article.

 

[Middleground]

Nothing much the Conservatives are doing is working so this weekend they're running 'dark visions of Canada under the Liberals' ads to try to scare us.

They're one step away from hiring Freddy Krueger to frighten us away from the polling places.

The TV ad blitz during the hockey playoff is insane. And they're the worst ads ever -- the 2 old geezers playing golf, and the one I love best, is showing Carney to be evil with red and orange distorted overlays. It's desperate and laughable.

 

[Allan]

the 2 old geezers playing golf

I'm sure portraying boomers as grumpy old men won't help much with that particular demographic.

 

[Callen]

"Of the various accusations leveled against Mr. Carney as he tries to lead his party to victory in Monday’s election, claims about his allegedly nefarious links to China have been the most persistent."

As the article points out Carney in his various roles had had extensive dealings with the China, valuable experience and he has his eyes wide open when it comes to China. Poilivere and his campaign , as this article points out , have been trying very hard to spin this experience into something nefarious when it isn't but it hasn't worked.

"Of the various accusations leveled against Mr. Carney as he tries to lead his party to victory in Monday’s election, claims about his allegedly nefarious links to China have been the most persistent."

 

[Callen]

Me? Lol, no, I've never met the NYT authors (one from Canada and one from Hong Kong) who wrote the article

If you read that sentence again it is not the NYT's that is suggesting this , it's Poilievre's campaign alleging it. His familiarity with China will actually be a plus because he is "eyes wide open"

 

[Callen]

This is Scott Galloway's podcast in which he interviews Carney. Excellent and smart questions, 100% free of stupidity. We Canadians have the opportunity to elect this brilliant person to lead us into the future -- let's not blow it.

While doing my morning news reading today, this was in my newsfeed - about Carney. I know next to nothing about this man expected to win Canada's election this week

If you are interested in getting to know him watch the video in the link above. It was posted on another thread.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

While doing my morning news reading today, this was in my newsfeed - about Carney. I know next to nothing about this man expected to win Canada's election this week, so this was informational to me. It's from NYT, so I suppose some might hit a paywall. I didn't, but maybe I haven't tried to open a NYT article in long enough - such that I didn't hit a paywall this time. I'll quote some various paragraphs from the sort of long article, in case others can't open it and have some curiosity in what it is about.

"Asked to name the biggest threat to Canada’s security during an election debate, Mark Carney, the country’s prime minister and Liberal Party leader running to win a full term, gave a surprising answer: “China.”

"Of the various accusations leveled against Mr. Carney as he tries to lead his party to victory in Monday’s election, claims about his allegedly nefarious links to China have been the most persistent."

"In 2020 Mr. Carney became board chairman at Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian investment giant and an investor in China’s property and renewable energy markets."

"He visited China at least twice last year."

"Whatever hat he was wearing, the Mark Carney speaking at the March 2024 event in Beijing sounded different than the Mark Carney of today.

The executives in the room said they would, “unswervingly continue to explore the China market, and develop a long-term close cooperative relationship with China,” according to state media coverage of the meeting.

The Conservative Party of Canada has framed a loan Brookfield received in November from the state-owned Bank of China for its property investments in Shanghai as evidence that Mr. Carney is beholden to Beijing."

“I am very cleareyed about China,” Mr. Carney told reporters this month. “It is the second-largest economy in the world, it is our second-largest trading partner, it is also — and I’ll use my words carefully given that I am briefed on these matters — one of the largest threats with respect to foreign interference.”

In Canada’s Election, Mark Carney’s China Experience Becomes a Liability

Mark Carney, who is running to win a full term as prime minister, has years of experience dealing with Chinese businesses and leadership. It’s become fodder for his opponents.

www.nytimes.com

I don't know a lot about Canada's internal politics, but it certainly isn't surprising that someone with an extensive background in business and finance would have made many trips to China. That by itself is not in any way nefarious. I have spent a lot of time in China, it isn't like traveling to Iran or North Korea. In fact, I would go so far to say that if you travel to China, you will come back thinking that it probably is not a good idea for the United States to start a unilateral trade war with them.

 

[Allan]

I don't know a lot about Canada's internal politics, but it certainly isn't surprising that someone with an extensive background in business and finance would have made many trips to China. That by itself is not in any way nefarious. I have spent a lot of time in China, it isn't like traveling to Iran or North Korea. In fact, I would go so far to say that if you travel to China, you will come back thinking that it probably is not a good idea for the United States to start a unilateral trade war with them.

I lived and worked in China with a US Fortune 500 company. Our China operation had Chinese investors and we also invested in Chinese companies.

Not only was it not "nefarious", it was quite common.