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Wonder how the virus spreads so much when people don't cough on each other a lot? It's from talking.

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This makes sense, and now science is backing it up. (So much for early claims that it's not spread through the air).


The airborne lifetime of small speech droplets and their potential importance in SARS-CoV-2 transmission | PNAS
 
This makes sense, and now science is backing it up. (So much for early claims that it's not spread through the air).



The airborne lifetime of small speech droplets and their potential importance in SARS-CoV-2 transmission | PNAS

Yes. That is why wearing a mask is more to protect others from you than protecting yourself. The only kind of mask that would protect you would be a properly-fitted N95 mask- something not even most ER docs and nurses working on the front lines can get.
 


Experiment in Japan to show how quickly the virus spreads in a restaurant.
 
Say it, don't spray it.
 

Apparently not, my wife read an article on how a double cloth mask, is up to 90% efficient.....I'd have to find it to read it myself, but that is what she told me.
 
This is news?

It is to many at least, including me in terms of the science; if you can show me the headlines about 'ordinary speech' being a transmission shown by science, I hadn't seen it. Of course I've felt it's the case, which is different than it being publicized and having a study.
 
Apparently not, my wife read an article on how a double cloth mask, is up to 90% efficient.....I'd have to find it to read it myself, but that is what she told me.

Perhaps, but 10% exposure to thousands of droplets per second doesn't sound super safe. Having those droplets caught by the speaker wearing a mask seems much more effective - but this also goes back to the issue of your hands being exposed and then you touching your mouth/nose/eyes.
 
It's not a point I care to debate, but it was my understanding that there was speech transmission pretty much from the get-go, something I was aware of since at least mid-March. Well anyway, now you know.
 
It's not a point I care to debate, but it was my understanding that there was speech transmission pretty much from the get-go, something I was aware of since at least mid-March. Well anyway, now you know.

It's not so much about debate as just a facutal question when the authorities were saying 'passed through speech in the air'. I was mostly seeing the opposite, though the term 'droplet' was a big part of the confused message, since it was implies that only came through things like coughs and sneezes. It's not that the risk is news to my suspicion, but the announced science seems updated.

There are two messages I'm not pleased about.

One is the early message that 'masks are not needed for people without symptoms', which might have been to try to keep masks for the people who need them more - a good cause but I disagree with lying to do it.

The second was this message that it's not airborne outside of droplets like from coughing, which the level of transmission seemed inconsistent with. Even when the reversed the mask policy, it seemed to be said it was to keep things like coughing from spreading droplets.
 
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Can't understand why people aren't being more cautious about putting their hands all over shopping carts hundreds of other people have used, unloading groceries from them and then eating food, including produce, etc., which has had contact with the cart - I feel like this could be much more likely to spread COVID than people talking
 

Because people wash their hands when they get home from shopping?
 
Because people wash their hands when they get home from shopping?

And they can't be infected anytime between the time they put their hands all over the cart and the time they get home and wash their hands? They've already touched the steering wheel, car door handle, etc., and some people have a long ride home
 

That and as one's cloth mask gets saturated with moisture its efficiency drops below that 90%.
 
And they can't be infected anytime between the time they put their hands all over the cart and the time they get home and wash their hands? They've already touched the steering wheel, car door handle, etc., and some people have a long ride home

Well, first of all, most people use hand sanitizer, second of all, im not sure about you, but I know I don't put my face on the steering well, car door handle, etc..... that **** is on the surface, it's not gonna magically rise up and come to you.
 
Well, first of all, most people use hand sanitizer, second of all, im not sure about you, but I know I don't put my face on the steering well, car door handle, etc..... that **** is on the surface, it's not gonna magically rise up and come to you.

We all scratch and touch our forehead, nose, eyes etc. far more than we are consciously aware.
 
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