I don't care about your irrelevant paranoia either. Just because you are paranoid doesn't make a gun a useful tool. Come up with a better use if there is one.
They are overpriced, but you could still cut things with them. they still have a lot more utility than a gun. You seem to not understand the argument. A gun can only be used to shoot things. A knife can be used for a variety of purposes, and most of which are non fatal and don't even involve hurting someone. You cannot do something other than shoot something with a gun. That is it's only purpose. That is the only thing it does well. How often do you need to do that, because i have never needed to.
oh don't do the overreactionary rant where you stop thinking entirely. Actually, communication is important in life. It has helped us to do a lot of things as a species and may be one of the main reasons we rose above other animals. If it is a choice between a gun or communicating i think i will take communicating. However, it is noce to see you support taking away others rights when they disagree with you.
It is also used to end them. Oh, and interestingly enough you would not have modern guns without the collaboration of people through speech and communication.
yes, but the wars are fought with guns, and oddly most religions supposedly teach killing is bad. If you thought about it that goes against the prime purpose of guns.
A car has a lot more utility than a gun does. Are you really trying to tell us a car is as useful as a gun is? Do us a favor, ride your gun to work and see how far it gets you.
Have you ever tried to cook a cow or a deer in a stove? you need the knife to cut the big parts up. Seriously, turn the on switch back on in your brain. This is getting really bad.
When you do something aside from making absurd arguments that don't address mine I will be happy to tell you. Until then a gun has one use. Knives, languange, and cars have far more than one single use.
That is great, you have gone way down the road into a completely different argument. The argument you are avoiding because you know i am right is that knives are treated differently because they are far more useful and have more value to society on a whole than guns do. They do many more things for us than a gun can. This whole fundamental rights BS is just an avoidance of the fact that you know a gun has a singular purpose, and it really is not a great tool that would make a good argument for it to be allowed despite it's danger. knives are permitted because most people use them for a purpose every day. They are not pissing away ammo at targets to make their dick seem larger, they are doing things they need to do to live and survive. People live just fine every day without a gun, but your life would become a lot worse without knives.
Yeah, and how many times have you used your gun to defend yourself in your life. How many people have you shot in self defense? The second question is how many times have you used a knife in the last week. I know which number is larger.
Again, it completely avoids the argument, and I didn't have to. yeah, i have been there, and I did not need a gun. However, i hate to think of how hard it would be to cook and eat without a knife.
Really, don't burst a blood vessel or anything. It is not your fault you cannot defend the utility of an object that is only meant to shoot things and do nothing else. It is just simply impossible to do. Most people who own guns will never shoot anything but targets with them. Most people with guns will never defend themselves with it. Most people with guns will never get the use they do out of a knife, or most other tools for that matter. A gun is something most people have and hope they never have to use it for it's purpose of killing things. A knife is something most people have because they know they will have a use for it. All your distractions and ranting aside, you simply cannot change that fact.
Normally when people say "the something" it means the group as a whole, people don't ask "Do you think the Yankees will make the world series" and only mean some of them.
Anyway, regardless of whether he meant all or some the argument itself is still stupid, you're focusing on an unimportant aspect. Its not hypocritical to call for banning guns because they are dangerous while at the same time not calling for a ban on every other conceivably dangerous thing in the world. Why? Again because there are so many other aspects to firearms and to everything else that can be dangerous. So to call or to imply people are hypocrites for not wanting to ban cars is just stupid. Likewise its just as stupid to not want to ban guns because there are other dangerous things in the world as well. Why? Again, because there are other aspects too all these other things.
1. We will require a rigorous background check to anyone trying to purchase a knife.
2. We will pass a law that requires a large metal ball at the end of the knife where the point might be. Then it cannot be used to stab people and it's even safer for people and especially children.
3. Then we will pass a law that all kniife handles must be no more than inch long, hence making it difficult to fully grasp the deadly weapon and use it as a weapon.
4. All portions of the blade will be dull except for a 1 inch section of the blade, which is all that is really needed to maintain functionality.
5. the inch of sharpened blade must always be holstered when not in used or washed, or locked in a safe.
6. Only butter knives will be allowed with on 1000 feet of a school.
7. Most important of all, of course, will be passing laws making it illegal to do illegal things with a knife.
Back off already. You can't call me on something I *didn't* do. I'm not omniscient and my life does not revolve around DP. I can state my disgust whenever and wherever I see fit and if you don't like it, well, you'll just have to deal with that on your own because it's not my problem.
Now stop trolling me about guns or whatever other irrelevant non-sense. I'm done here.
The only paranoia that exists here is your inability to respect the needs of others.
Just because you cannot understand common sense is not my problem.
The fact that you cry and whine about what you don't believe is acceptable for others is irrelevant.
The fact that you don't see a need for guns means nothing.
Your ignorance is your problem, not ours.
Psst...those first two knives are made for killing and/or defense. Not cutting up cow.
But not all speech is useful and can be very harmful. How about we ban that? Do you believe in limiting what a person can say? Going by your anti-gun propaganda and if you don't want to be hypocritical then you would have to say yes.
In which case I'm sure that you would love to ban that part of speech huh?
They also use knives in wars.
Utility is irrelevent. You're talking about people not NEEDING guns. You don't NEED a car. You have two feet to get where you need to go and hands to carry things with.
No actually you don't. Use a sharp rock to get the skin off and use a fire pit to cook.
You're arguement was about "need". You need none of those things. You just want those things because it makes your life easier. You should understand the difference between "need" and "want". You NEED air to survive. You don't NEED a car.
Do you understand the difference between a pocket knife or kitchen knife and the knives that I showed you? Obviously not. Two of those knives are designed for killing. The other is designed for skinning and since you said we don't NEED to hunt then that (and those others), by your own logic, should be banned.
Can you tell the future? Are you some sort of psychic? Having a gun for self defense isn't about killing. It is about survival. And it matters not how often one has used it. But last I heard the amount of people in the US that have used a gun for self defense far outweighs how many people have been killed with one.
If you had actually been there and didn't use a gun then you would be dead. There were only two outcomes in my question. Death. Or using the gun to save your life. Try again.
Funny how you went from "a gun is meant for killing people" to "an object that is only meant to shoot things and do nothing else". Are you conceding that there are other uses for guns other than killing people (your original arguement)?
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Who is calling for a ban on GUNS?
I am frequently disgusted at DP by how outrageously and blindly partisan people are, but I have never been so repulsed as I am now in seeing a thread about a horrible rape being turned into a partisan pissing contest.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! SERIOUSLY.
Can we stop pretending that "If we should ban guns because they are dangerous, we should ban everything that's dangerous" is a line of a logic ANYONE is using?
I can't wait until the next smug prick who thinks he's being clever talks about why 'libs' don't want to ban buildings over two stories because they are dangerous too!
There is a difference between a knife and a gun. That is that knives actually have a purpose in all of our lives. It is a tool we use to cook or to cut things. It is basic and useful. yet still there are places that ban knives despite their usefulness. Often those places are ones where during normal circumstances you won't need a knife. For instance schools or a courthouse. A gun is different. It has one purpose, and that purpose is not very useful for most people. That purpose is to send a chunk of metal at a target at extreme velocities to cause damage. Guns are a tool for killing. you cannot cut your steak with a gun. A gun is terrible at opening boxes, or at cutting things. Treating them the same would be silly as they both serve much different purposes and are much different. Sorry, but you made a bad argument, right down to the reality we do ban knives in many places.
Yet they can be used for both, unlike a gun that has only one use. Oh, and they are not made for killing people, they are made to look cool which is why most people wouldn't ever use them to do real utility work. That doesn't mean they can't, it just means they will use their non pretty knife to actually do something with. Do you get tired of being wrong all the time, or do you just get angry about it? Oh wait, don't let me say you are wrong, let me prove it to you with a question. Why can't you cut cow with those knives?
Actually, no going by the gun propaganda when you cannot make a point that supports your argument you change the subject and do something stupid. I can talk at you all day long and you won't die from it. unless I can shoot in Morse Code I pretty much cannot communicate with a gun. Sorry, but guns are not speech no matter how much you wish they were so your argument wasn't crap.
You wish i did because you are trying to put words in my mouth. That is because you cannot argue with what i am saying. i don't get tired of being right.
yeah, even soldiers have to cut things.
no, it is the reason we do not ban other things while we do ban guns. You can keep pretending a gun is like all these other things, but simply guns do not have any other purpose aside from shooting things. Your argument is still crap no matter how many times you repeat it. You don't need a gun to survive, but many people would find themselves in deep trouble if they did not have transportation.
A sharp rock which is pretty much an unrefined knife? Like I said your gun simply won't do the job. But if you want to eat your food with rocks go ahead.
No my argument is about utility and use. You dragged it down the road of need. What is worse you dragged it down a road that doesn't even help your argument.
You see, you need to leave the logic to those that are not a train wreck. Those knives can all be used for other purposes. You do not have to use the knife only for it's intended purpose. Unlike a gun which becomes pretty pointless when you are not shooting things. Please do explain why you cannot use those knives for the purposes they are not optimized for. I remember years ago a guy cut his own leg off to get himself free of a tree with a pocket knife. I am pretty sure they do not make pocket knives for cutting your leg off. I am alsop pretty sure if he had a gun the best he could have done in that case was to give himself a painless death which he avoided because he had a knife.
Ok, how many times have you used your gun to survive? yeah, the argument fails even when you drop the self defense rhetoric and swap to survival. I can tell you right now if it is about survival and you have a choice between a gun and a knife you take the knife, or you die much quicker. if it is really down to that point that survival is your goal, a knife can do so much more. Not to mention you cannot run out of bullets with a knife. Once you have no more bullets, like in the case of an actual survival scenario, your gun doesn't do anything else. It is a big awkward rock at that point. How do you make your arguments worse?
Sorry, but I was there, and no i am not dead. Quite to your dismay. Then again i guess i seem to be able to figure out how to survive a lot better than you can. I am not the guy who is going to shoot an animal, then cook it whole over a campfire that would be easier to make if you has an object that could cut, and get the meat off the bones with a sharp rock. When i say it again like that it gives me a good chuckle. if there is ever an apocalypse you totally have to live next to me.
People keep bringing up playing with their guns as something useful. yes, you can shoot a target, I am just not sure how it as useful as cutting things, but I figured i would give you that point as crappy as it was. unfortunately even in the land of playing a gun is not nearly as versatile as a ball. Let me try to explain this. You spend a thousand dollars on a gun and then you have to buy the bullets. Then you can go out and shoot targets for fun and in your imaginary world perhaps protect yourself someday, oh and shoot a deer you will have to eat whole. I could take that couple of grand for bullets and a gun and buy every ball walmart has, a set of steak knives, and enough food for a picnic and still have money left over. You can have your fake penis, I will take the balls, a party, and a bunch of knives. I am going to have more fun than you, and I am going to survive better.
I will give you one point. i am pretty sure in 2 decades on the internet i have never been countered with use sharp rocks to cut your food. i am going to be giggling about that one for days.
Police are looking for the man who approached a woman waiting at a bus stop in Queens early Monday, forced her to a nearby cemetery and raped her at knifepoint.
Authorities said the suspect approached the 41-year-old victim at 91st Place and Corona Avenue in Elmhurst shortly before 5 a.m. and asked her who she was waiting for.
When she said "my husband," he put a knife to her back and forced her to a high school parking lot about two blocks away, where he made her empty her pockets.
Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint | NBC New York
Will the liberals be calling for KNIFE bans next?
Since she didn't have a firearm they probably won't charge her with a crime.
Hey Mods, it is against the rules to use "idiot" when addressing another poster but "Smug Prick" is ok as long as a liberal is posting it?
Now back to the post, so you are saying knives don't kill people but guns do?
I see your knowledge of knives is about as extensive as your knowledge of guns. Zilch. The first knife is a combat knife used as a last resort when a soldier has no bullets or is too close to use a gun. The second set of knives are throwing knives. Made specifically to throw and kill people..originally they were made thin enough to go between pieces of armor..like the helmet and breast plate for example. The combat knife could be used to cut up a cow..but it would not be very efficient at it compared to the skinning knife..which you also think is not needed since we do not need to hunt. The throwing knives shown do not even have handles..you would end up cutting yourself more than the cow.
A gun in your purse is useless against a knife at your throat. I'm not sure why people just assume this would have been prevented if she were armed. In fact, attempting to pull a gun at that point would have probably resulted in her death.
Earth to naive person, guns are used to put meat on the table for those that like other options besides grocery stores. Guns level the playing field for law abiding citizens against the thugs that so many liberals cheer for. Your argument is poor and insignificant.
It's also likely that she would have blown his ****ing head off before he got the chance to harm her.If she has a gun, it's likely the rapist might have shot and killed her with it.
There is no constitutional right to cut meat.yet you still cannot cut your meat without a knife. BTW you can get meat without a gun, but you cannot cut it without a knife.
A gun has a magical shield that forces everyone to walk up to you and declare their intentions while allowing you time to draw and attack. We know it is true because that is how the advertisements work.
There is no constitutional right to cut meat.
You don't need your gun. As a matter of fact you could live your entire life without it. How often do you use it for shooting something other than targets? Which really amounts to playing with it. Which really puts your gun in the same category as a ball.
If your ideals are common sense then consider me uncommon. I am fine with not seeing your point of view since you can barely explain it.
Like I have shown you in the past, gun rights are not even acceptable for everyone by you, or the founding fathers for that matter.
Now there is your problem. Reading comprehension. i have never said society doesn't need guns, I said you don't need them. You don't need a nuclear power reactor, but they do come in handy for the country. There are lots of things we find useful that you don't personally need.
Evidently it is a problem for you, because you are here. It is hard to play like you are unconcerned with me when you are part of the posse that stalks my posts half the time.
So the founders made a mistake or two in the constitution. it wasn't passed down from god.
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