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I have no idea what you have been doing to produce such a ridiculous belief. The funding for my job comes from the same sources that fund Republicans in the same positions. CLUE for the CLUELESS: it has nothing to do with unions or union money.
How can one "repudiate the numbers" when all they are is numbers without sources to examine?
Naive viewpoint at best, union benefits simply aren't a driving force for stock oriented decisions by investors (Good ones at least.) You're placing far too much stock (no pun intended) in this win.Why would that be a downer, you are absolutely correct as investors invest their own money to make a profit and the Wisconsin results indicate that a strong leader taking action against skyrocketing costs due to union benefits could be an indication that better days are coming. Now we get rid of Obama and really turn the economy around.
I hate to be a downer, but something tells me that investors weren't withholding capital awaiting the Wisconsin gubernatorial results.
Naive viewpoint at best, union benefits simply aren't a driving force for stock oriented decisions by investors (Good ones at least.) You're placing far too much stock (no pun intended) in this win.
Naive viewpoint at best, union benefits simply aren't a driving force for stock oriented decisions by investors (Good ones at least.) You're placing far too much stock (no pun intended) in this win.
Drivel? Nah, just pointing out that the Wisconsin results most likely had very little to zero impact on stocks, the much more plausible explanation would be the fed suggesting further extending monetary easing into the forseeable future. Bank Of America, Morgan Stanley Shares Skyrocket On Hopes Of More Fed Easing - ForbesWhat point do you hope to make with that drivel ?
Liberals ruin the business environment.
Drivel? Nah, just pointing out that the Wisconsin results most likely had very little to zero impact on stocks, the much more plausible explanation would be the fed suggesting further extending monetary easing into the forseeable future. Bank Of America, Morgan Stanley Shares Skyrocket On Hopes Of More Fed Easing - Forbes
Stock market has done just fine under Democrats in general, so why the giant contradiction?
i've had this argument with him before, he seems to think that even though the state worker performs a service to earn that money, that the "state"(taxpayers) get to dictate to the individual how they are to spend their paycheck, he believes, even after the money has been paid, the 'taxpayer' has a claim on it.
What last night showed is that the people support what Walker is doing and that results actually matter. That doesn't bode well for November for Obama because Obama cannot run on his record. Unions wasted millions and millions of dollars to lose in a landslide.
I was discussing stocks, you claimed that business friendly environments yielded better results in the stock market, claimed that Obama was anti business and that Democrats "ruin the business environment" yet ignored the sizable increase under Obama thus far. I'm not in any way shape or form attributing the uptick in the last 3 1/2 years to Obama's policies, but the sheer correlation kinda destroys your own argument.The post you responded to referenced far more than "stocks". It referenced turning the country around, and investment in America. We are in a bit of a bad economic situation nationally, and it ain't the stock market that is the problem.
Further, at state levels we have perfect indicators of what works as a successful business environment, and what does not. If we kick that assclown Obama out of DC in November, maybe we can begin to adapt what works to a national level again. Wisconsin is a perfect microcosm of the fight ahead and the solution needed.
The Alternet "source"?
You DO get that Im not blaming Walker...Im actually pointing out that there IS in fact more to this than good party bad party and that ideologues continue to just spout mindless party rhetoric and that helps nothing. You get that...right?If Obama can blame Bush, why can't Walker? He has been WI governor for 1.5 years and has yet to turn the state's economy around. I am turely SHOCKED, not! Please explain why he had over a $3 billion deficit when he statred and now has barely over $1 million deficit to deal with. Was WI in better shape BEFORE governor Walker? Hmm...
You continue to miss the point, I have no problem with private sector unions, my issue is with public unions and funding for those unions. All pay and benefits since they come from the taxpayers should be determined by the taxpayers at the ballot box.
There also is no question that once the money comes from the taxpayer it becomes the union employee but that misses the point totally. Where does that money come from if not the taxpayer?
You DO get that Im not blaming Walker...Im actually pointing out that there IS in fact more to this than good party bad party and that ideologues continue to just spout mindless party rhetoric and that helps nothing. You get that...right?
No, the taxpayer has no right to tell that person what to do with their money. No more than your boss has a right to tell you what to do with your paycheck. Why is it hard to understand?
**** it...Blame Canada!If people didn't come on here and spout mindless party rhetoric, this site would be dead in a week.
So we'll have more fun if we argue about whether this is a bellweather for the Republicans, and if Obama wouldn't be better off just resigning now so Romney can pick out the upholstery for the Oval Office.
I was discussing stocks, you claimed that business friendly environments yielded better results in the stock market, claimed that Obama was anti business and that Democrats "ruin the business environment" yet ignored the sizable increase under Obama thus far. I'm not in any way shape or form attributing the uptick in the last 3 1/2 years to Obama's policies, but the sheer correlation kinda destroys your own argument.
To me it is very sad that we are left with those two primary options (Im very encouraged to see Gary Johnson taking the lead as the nominee for the Libertarian ticket. That MAY actually make things interesting). Of the two major parties I can think of three people (Clinton-D, Powell-C, Hunstman-R) that would actually make a positive difference for the country. Instead...holy ****. Those two...and a 'supporting' cast in congress.If people didn't come on here and spout mindless party rhetoric, this site would be dead in a week.
So we'll have more fun if we argue about whether this is a bellweather for the Republicans, and if Obama wouldn't be better off just resigning now so Romney can pick out the upholstery for the Oval Office.
Business friendly environments DO yield better results in the stock market, the ONLY reason Wallstreet is doing so well is because the government bailed them out with TRILLIONS of dollars in funding. Wallstreet is on a bubble right now based on government spending, it will all come crashing down when Europe gets in trouble and of course, with no money for bailouts the Wallstreet gains will come back down.
This issue was a huge waster of our time and money. Both politicians should be ashamed of their immaturity and their smear campaigns. Barrett especially with his "Scott Walker is a rock star" gimmicky attacks. All of this time and energy was wasted, over $50,000,000 spent, for nothing.
Both politicians don't seem to give a damn about the rest of us. They seem far more content to waste money to keep themselves and their party members in power.
The only good thing about this drama is its end.
What exactly should Walker have done? He didn't initiate the recall!
To me it is very sad that we are left with those two primary options (Im very encouraged to see Gary Johnson taking the lead as the nominee for the Libertarian ticket. That MAY actually make things interesting). Of the two major parties I can think of three people (Clinton-D, Powell-C, Hunstman-R) that would actually make a positive difference for the country. Instead...holy ****. Those two...and a 'supporting' cast in congress.
Fear and tremble...the Mayans may have been on to something...
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