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William Rodriguez, WTC explosion witness

creativedreams said:
I admit it's just speculation on my part but it would only make sense to have a huge military base there to be able to battle 2 superpowers at once...China and Russia threat
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Wtf? Why in the world would need a base in Iraq to fight Russia and China? Iraq=/=helpful.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Wow. Lucky guy, huh? Coincidence=/=conspiracy.
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"I don't believe in coincidence" -- Juliette Binoche

"Coincidence is the word we use when we cannot see the levers and the pulleys" -- Emma Bull

"It is such a complex matter we live within, it is impossible to track logic and decision making really, so therefore each choice can actually only be seen as coincidence." -- Carson Nicolai

And, one of my faves:
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action." -- Auric Goldfinger


I think there are just too many coincidences on 9/11 to believe the garbage the government feeds us.
 
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Jessica said:
"I don't believe in coincidence" -- Juliette Binoche

"Coincidence is the word we use when we cannot see the levels and the pulleys" -- Emma Bull

"It is such a complex matter we live within, it is impossible to track logic and decision making really, so therefore each choice can actually only be seen as coincidence." -- Carson Nicolai

And, one of my faves:
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action." -- Auric Goldfinger


I think there are just too many coincidences on 9/11 to believe the garbage the government feeds us.
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Uh huh. Coincidence quotes. Nice. You're obviously way to deep to be tricked by the government conspiracy.
 
RightOfCenter said:
I'm in the military. I know what base looks like. I think you misunderstand the concept of "strategic military base."
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I understand it perfectly.
I think you might misunderstand the concept of "military brainwashing". :2razz:

But then National Security Adviser and later Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger said this:

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." -- Henry A. Kissinger

Here are some more quotes from this... this... great leader... :

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- Henry Kissinger

"Power is the great aphrodisiac" -- Henry Kissinger

"For other nations, utopia is a blessed past never to be recovered; for Americans it is just beyond the horizon" -- Henry Kissinger

"Obama is prime to bring in a New World Order" -- Henry Kissinger

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government" -- Henry Kissinger


I use Kissinger because he was first appointed as head of the 9/11 Commission. His desires for a New World Order and his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations should bring into question what is really going on here. Coincidence? So many coincidences, don't you think?
 
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RightOfCenter said:
I'm in the military. I know what base looks like. I think you misunderstand the concept of "strategic military base."
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Both my brothers are military officers and they both would probably kick my @$$ if they knew I was posting here...:)
 
Jessica said:
I understand it perfectly.
I think you might misunderstand the concept of "military brainwashing". :2razz:

But then National Security Adviser and later Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger said this:

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." -- Henry A. Kissinger

Here are some more quotes from this... this... great leader... :

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- Henry Kissinger

"Power is the great aphrodisiac" -- Henry Kissinger

"For other nations, utopia is a blessed past never to be recovered; for Americans it is just beyond the horizon -- Henry Kissinger

"Obama is prime to bring in a New World Order" -- Henry Kissinger

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government" -- Henry Kissinger


I use Kissinger because he was first appointed as head of the 9/11 Commission. His desires for a New World Order and his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations should bring into question what is really going on here. Coincidence? So many coincidences, don't you think?
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Both my brothers have extremely high IQ's and are both in the military....not sure what happened to me.....;)
 
Jessica said:
I understand it perfectly.
I think you might misunderstand the concept of "military brainwashing". :2razz:

But then National Security Adviser and later Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger said this:

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." -- Henry A. Kissinger
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Intended to be insult?

Here are some more quotes from this... this... great leader... :

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- Henry Kissinger

"Power is the great aphrodisiac" -- Henry Kissinger

"For other nations, utopia is a blessed past never to be recovered; for Americans it is just beyond the horizon" -- Henry Kissinger

"Obama is prime to bring in a New World Order" -- Henry Kissinger

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government" -- Henry Kissinger


I use Kissinger because he was first appointed as head of the 9/11 Commission. His desires for a New World Order and his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations should bring into question what is really going on here. Coincidence? So many coincidences, don't you think?
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I'm not exactly sure why you're putting Kissinger on the pedestal here. He was appointed and stepped down almost immediately. Are you insinuating that he had something to do with the attack?
 
RightOfCenter said:
Intended to be insult?



I'm not exactly sure why you're putting Kissinger on the pedestal here. He was appointed and stepped down almost immediately. Are you insinuating that he had something to do with the attack?
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No intention to insult. Just wanted you to understand how your leaders think of the military.

Put Kissinger on a pedestal? HA HA! I don't think so.
He stepped down because people rightfully questioned him and his bias towards the incident. But you also have to question Bush's judgement appointing him in the first place, and really how honest the whole thing was. Remember the commission reported that both Bush administration and the CIA were very uncooperative, and gave the commission a very short deadline to finish their report. That should be a red flag right there! Evidence takes time to uncover. There should be no time limit on the discovery of truth or on pursuing justice, nor should the families of the victims be given "sorry we cannot tell you what happened, as we ran out of time" as an excuse.
I do not know what role he played in the government attack on 9/11.
At least guilt by association.
 
Jessica said:
No intention to insult. Just wanted you to understand how your leaders think of the military.
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Yeah, I understand find thanks.

Put Kissinger on a pedestal? HA HA! I don't think so.
He stepped down because people rightfully questioned him and his bias towards the incident. But you also have to question Bush's judgement appointing him in the first place, and really how honest the whole thing was. Remember the commission reported that both Bush administration and the CIA were very uncooperative, and gave the commission a very short deadline to finish their report. That should be a red flag right there! Evidence takes time to uncover. There should be no time limit on the discovery of truth or on pursuing justice, nor should the families of the victims be given "sorry we cannot tell you what happened, as we ran out of time" as an excuse.
I do not know what role he played in the government attack on 9/11.
At least guilt by association.
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There has to be guilt before you can have guilt by association. And the families know what happened. A bunch of crazy Arabs flew planes into buildings.
 
RightOfCenter said:
What qualifies as a lot? A dozen? Two dozen??
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Even if it's only a dozen ...shouldn't they qualify for help and closure from the great American Justice System?

Isn't tyranny what our brave forefathers tried to break away from?
 
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creativedreams said:
Even if it's only a dozen ...shouldn't they qualify for help and closure from the great American Justice System?

Isn't tyranny what our brave forefathers tried to break away from?
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Not really. If it's just a couple they are most likely bat **** nuts.
 
Chanda said:
Do you think anyone has exploited 9/11 more than George W. Bush, et al? But you believe him, don't you? Nice logic.
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I already know who Bush worked for. But Rodriguez seems to be
milking his WTC experience for profit and spreading CIA type disinfo.
Here's why I say that: he speaks of explosions in the basement, yet
demolition engineering requires that the entire steel support structure
be precisely cut to pieces by timed thermate charges beginning very
high in the towers. A basement meltdown would cause a topple, not
a footprint collapse.

Danger, Will Robinson !
 
RightOfCenter said:
What qualifies as a lot? A dozen? Two dozen??
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Bill Doyle, head of the Coalition of 9/11 Families, estimates about half of 9/11 families believe the government was complicit in the attacks. That is consistent with New Yorkers in general--about 50% believe government complicity, according to poll.
 
Chanda said:
Bill Doyle, head of the Coalition of 9/11 Families, estimates about half of 9/11 families believe the government was complicit in the attacks. That is consistent with New Yorkers in general--about 50% believe government complicity, according to poll.
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There is at least one lawsuit by the families. The one I am most familiar with is by a man named Stanley Hilton. Stanley says that 9/11 was an inside job. Now get this:

He said he went to school with Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. They would talk for hours about what it would take to make the United States a socialist or somehow a police state. It was Hilton that coined the term "a new pearl harbor", as he had done so in a paper he wrote on how to achieve this very thing. Funny how later it was used in the PNAC brief and then again by Bush on 9/11 when he wrote in his diary that the US had witnessed a "new pearl harbor".

Stanley Hilton has been an insider for many years, and even was a polticial advisor for Bob Dole, and some other things around Washington.
 
Chanda said:
Bill Doyle, head of the Coalition of 9/11 Families, estimates about half of 9/11 families believe the government was complicit in the attacks. That is consistent with New Yorkers in general--about 50% believe government complicity, according to poll.
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So a crazy guy made up a number. Definitely credible.
 
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