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Wicca and other Neo-Pagans

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Do you know about those movements?

Maybe some here are members and can tell about the topic?

And the Wheel of the Year ….
 
for some time i had moved in their circles. 🎂
I'm very sorry to hear that. My late little sister and her husband were both Wiccan (Celtic and Egyptian traditions respectively) leaders. Well known. He was a cradle Catholic whose father was off-the-boat Irish in the '50's and a fisherman, and he was born and died in Brooklyn. Toward the end of his life, he developed a special relationship with trees (according to my sister). She was more about Mother Ocean and wolves. Not really sure why. They made their livings on the "gather" circuit leading seminars and selling singing bowls and crystals and such.
 
I'm very sorry to hear that. My late little sister and her husband were both Wiccan (Celtic and Egyptian traditions respectively) leaders. Well known. He was a cradle Catholic whose father was off-the-boat Irish in the '50's and a fisherman, and he was born and died in Brooklyn. Toward the end of his life, he developed a special relationship with trees (according to my sister). She was more about Mother Ocean and wolves. Not really sure why. They made their livings on the "gather" circuit leading seminars and selling singing bowls and crystals and such.
We can all appreciate your aversion to diverse thinking...
 
I'm well aware of Wiccan beliefs and traditions, though never a practicing Wiccan. Some here don't like the core tenet of "though it harm no one...".
 
We can all appreciate your aversion to diverse thinking...
What I appreciate is your consistency in reaching for an opportunity to personally attack. Your reach exceeds your grasp, but good for you for being consistent here too.
 
Wiccans know a lot of old European traditions.
They often are well informed and well educated.
The Wiccans I have known have ternded to be well-educated. And altruistic.
 
What I appreciate is your consistency in reaching for an opportunity to personally attack. Your reach exceeds your grasp, but good for you for being consistent here too.
You're overly sensitive and judgmental. You take things personally a lot. I was only commenting on your comments.
 
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You're overly sensitive and judgmental. You take things personally alot. I was only commenting on your comments.
Yeah, I believe that is also called taking things personally...being overly sensitive and judgmental...lol
 
do we have members here who have been Wicca or are still Wicca and can post some info?
What kind of info do you seek? I'm not going to Google around, but surely a replacement has sprung up for the old Ask a Witch.com and many Wiccans who are eager to answer any questions you may have. Do keep in mind, though, that the reason a coven "hives off" is because its leader(s) have chosen a new belief (or god) that their coven doesn't embrace.

As an example, my brother-in-law became very angry at his chosen main god when my sister was dying, so angry that after her death, he rejected that god and chose another because his initial one didn't do right by him. Or it could be that certain members want to incorporate fairy worship. And etc.
 
I once attended a "handfasting" (wedding) held in the remains of a ruined 12th century church, set in the middle of a neolithic henge circle. Some guests felt power vibes from touching a stone there, But I got nothing.
 
I once attended a "handfasting" (wedding) held in the remains of a ruined 12th century church, set in the middle of a neolithic henge circle. Some guests felt power vibes from touching a stone there, But I got nothing.
In England or Ireland? Are these ruins very close to a running stream of some sort? My sister's intention was to have some of her ashes scattered by a friend widely known as "Dave the Druid" by a stream close to some ruins (I think in Ireland?). Both she and her husband were licensed pagan ministers in NY and performed many handfastings. Not sure what all the death rites are, but once my sister flew out to California to perform these rites, and they lasted 3 days. Something about "crossing over into the Summer Lands."
 
I've got more respect for Modern and Neo-Paganism than religions like Christianity

The Pagan traditions that evolved from Western and Northern Europe embraced nature, kinda like the native Indian.

Modern Paganism in the US holds many of the same values as its predecessors.

The rise of modern paganism has been aided by the decline in Christianity throughout many parts of Europe and North America.

 
In England or Ireland? Are these ruins very close to a running stream of some sort? My sister's intention was to have some of her ashes scattered by a friend widely known as "Dave the Druid" by a stream close to some ruins (I think in Ireland?). Both she and her husband were licensed pagan ministers in NY and performed many handfastings. Not sure what all the death rites are, but once my sister flew out to California to perform these rites, and they lasted 3 days. Something about "crossing over into the Summer Lands."
In England.

 
I think it is important to distinguish between "Wicca" and "Paganism" or "Neo-Paganism". "Pagan" is the derogatory term, like "heathen", that the Christian church applied to any "non-believers" - while they were in the process of stealing their traditions and incorporating them into church practices and doctrine (think Easter and Christmas, Yule logs, Advent, exorcism, etc. ad nauseum). Neo-paganism is the umbrella term for the revival of various forms of pre- and non-Christian practices, whereas Wicca is a specific recreation of nature-based practices once called "witchcraft" by the Christian church(es). The central concern that binds them together is spiritualism.

Wicca has specific doctrine and practices - "It was developed in England during the first half of the 20th century and was introduced to the public in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired British civil servant. Wicca draws upon a diverse set of ancient pagan and 20th-century hermetic motifs for its theological structure and ritual practices." (Wikipedia) Wicca is intentionally distinguished from "witchcraft", although sometimes referred to as "the craft", because of the latter's negative connotations. The biggest distinction from Christianity is the acceptance of duotheism - worship of both "the Goddess" and "God" - although some traditions merely refer to this as the female and male aspects of god. The point mostly being reclamation of "the female" excluded and marginalized by the mainstream Christian churches.

I have two friends that are practicing Wiccans and possess a number of books on the subject, although I have not referenced them in over a decade. While I was in the military, I was tangentially aware of some issues involving Wiccan practitioners, which is when I first started studying about it. There was, at the time, a chaplain who had been dismissed because he changed his religious affiliation, and there were several groups that were trying to establish regular practices on military bases, and ours was one of them. I was working in Administrative Law on base, at the time, and had to give some legal advice about what to do about it, and one of our Chaplains was learning about it to minister to Soldiers who were practitioners. As far as I know, there are no Chaplains who are Wiccans.

I found this interesting related article:

Wiccans in the US military are mourning the dead in Afghanistan this year as they mark Samhain, the original Halloween (The Conversation)​

 
I think it is important to distinguish between "Wicca" and "Paganism" or "Neo-Paganism". "Pagan" is the derogatory term, like "heathen", that the Christian church applied to any "non-believers" - while they were in the process of stealing their traditions and incorporating them into church practices and doctrine (think Easter and Christmas, Yule logs, Advent, exorcism, etc. ad nauseum). Neo-paganism is the umbrella term for the revival of various forms of pre- and non-Christian practices, whereas Wicca is a specific recreation of nature-based practices once called "witchcraft" by the Christian church(es). The central concern that binds them together is spiritualism.

Wicca has specific doctrine and practices - "It was developed in England during the first half of the 20th century and was introduced to the public in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired British civil servant. Wicca draws upon a diverse set of ancient pagan and 20th-century hermetic motifs for its theological structure and ritual practices." (Wikipedia) Wicca is intentionally distinguished from "witchcraft", although sometimes referred to as "the craft", because of the latter's negative connotations. The biggest distinction from Christianity is the acceptance of duotheism - worship of both "the Goddess" and "God" - although some traditions merely refer to this as the female and male aspects of god. The point mostly being reclamation of "the female" excluded and marginalized by the mainstream Christian churches.

I have two friends that are practicing Wiccans and possess a number of books on the subject, although I have not referenced them in over a decade. While I was in the military, I was tangentially aware of some issues involving Wiccan practitioners, which is when I first started studying about it. There was, at the time, a chaplain who had been dismissed because he changed his religious affiliation, and there were several groups that were trying to establish regular practices on military bases, and ours was one of them. I was working in Administrative Law on base, at the time, and had to give some legal advice about what to do about it, and one of our Chaplains was learning about it to minister to Soldiers who were practitioners. As far as I know, there are no Chaplains who are Wiccans.

I found this interesting related article:

Wiccans in the US military are mourning the dead in Afghanistan this year as they mark Samhain, the original Halloween (The Conversation)​

I stumbled on this in-depth analysis of the word pagan. Neat!

 
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