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So, in essence, you believe in things you cannot prove? Interesting?
Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Same here, except that I know nothing about Dawkins.
Dawkins ... is rubbish!
...you should know that.
No, it's not. Why would I post that reminder if it is?
So, in essence, you believe in things you cannot prove? Interesting?
What always defeats the creation ex nihilo argument is that with all our intelligence, we're not even close to figuring out the design and organization of the universe, more less it's origin. It's of such a complicated and sophisticated nature that our intellects boggle, which means the universe is of a design beyond out intellect. Just because you can't find the active agent for creation doesn't negate it's complexity and inherit architecture. All our intellect does is catalog and give symbolism to the structures that already exist. And of course we mimic nature by manipulating some of its materials into a modern technological society. Our skills compared to nature are pretty puny in comparison.
So, if nature has no active intelligent source, why is it built on an order of higher complexity than our minds can comprehend? Yes, I already know your answer, that there's no Sky Daddy and conscious intelligence arose from a particle soup of an unfathomable beginning. Too me that's no different than saying the letters from a bowl of Campbell's alphabet soup accidentally came together to spell *smart* and out jumped a self aware person.
I do.
The big difference is that I understand that I accept these things and I can show that accepting them works on a tentative basis.
I believe that reality exists for example but, I cannot prove it, the evidence appears pretty strong that it exists but, I accept that it isn't proven and I am able to function in 'reality' on that basis.
Methinks you protest even more too much.
The word "prove" implies 100% certainty. Only one thing is 100% certain that it will occur.
So, because we don't know everything we know nothing and we never will know anything?
We don't know how to create everything so we can create nothing and we will never be able to create anything?
Because something looks complicated and difficult we should just say Goddidit and argue from ignorance.
Define nothing?
Please join us over here http://www.debatepolitics.com/science-and-technology/207258-intelligent-design-new-evidence.html
And even that might not turn out as expected. I doubt you'll have anymore to say about appearing somewhere else, as you did about appearing here.
I see an emoticon, so I guess this is a joke
To confirm that it was a bait thread.
Since it's flatly stated what this thread is meant to be.... perhaps you ought to apply it to the definition of an EXPOSE'.
Z, don't you see whats happening here? She isn't interested in "seeing". She is interested only in trying to re-enforce the opinion she already holds. This is why she won't debate the issues, but rather attack some that isn't here to defend himself asking us to do it as if we can or even care to.
Don't defend Dawkins, he's no prophet, his area of expertise is biology. He is a prominent outspoken figure, but if I can offer some friendly advice to anyone that debates people like her is to find out what the real issues are and try to engage in a conversation between you and that person and the beliefs that you and the other person hold.
I tried but it's obvious to me she's not interested in real conversation about the issues that she claims to hold so dear, rather she attempts to discredit atheism as a theological position rather than a rational one.
She has deployed "Christian thinking" by attacking Dawkins as if he is any kind of authority on what atheists should believe. As atheists, we question Christian claims and ideas that admit of no possible error lest they undermine the foundation of Christian belief. The Christian in her thinks she can undermine "atheism" the same way.
You cannot show someone like her the "truth" only invite her to discuss it. The harder you try the more she will retreat viewing your persistence as fear of the truth that she believes she already knows
That's an example of your "philosophy." Thank you for confirming that I'm right to decline to participate in your kind of so-called, "philosophical discussion."
Is ...
You haven't exposed anything.
Is that how you understood what's been written and shown? :lol:
If you can't understand what's been said, and shown....and it's written and said in simple layman's language.....what more when you read heavy philosophical stuff?
You and zyzygy have that in common. What's with the "pairing" and side-kicks here anyway?
In the other thread, we have Batman and his robin...and now, it's Superman and his superboy! :lol:
In other forums, atheists got their "mariachi band," coming out in full force to try to drown out anyone who try to discuss sensibly about Religion, Intelligent Design and Evolution.
Shrieking and shrill deflecting, is their "sensible" way of discussing.
You should invite zyzygy to discuss with you. At least you'll understand each other....you'll be on the same page all the time. :lol:
You cannot show someone like her the "truth" only invite her to discuss it. The harder you try the more she will retreat viewing your persistence as fear of the truth that she believes she already knows
That's an example of your "philosophy." Thank you for confirming that I'm right to decline to participate in your kind of so-called, "philosophical discussion."
Beg to differ, the ignorance of science and hubris of using science ignorantly are very well exposed.
Were you offered a choice before you were born here? Then I doubt you'll be offered one when you leave. That's kind of a hard one to maneuver around, huh?
Since it's flatly stated what this thread is meant to be.... perhaps you ought to apply it to the definition of an EXPOSE'.
Jon Stewart is not an atheist. If the persom who created this video didn't know that then how could they call themselves an intellectual.#14
Conservative Christians
Stewart's The Daily Show (Jon Stewart is an atheist by the way) did a hit piece on Christian apologist Matt Slick by editing a conversation he had with them. But first they told him they'll give a fair view of his conservative stance on gays, lesbians and homosexuality. It ends up they tried to make him look like a homophobe instead, by suggesting he claimed homosexuals go out and try to physically hurt heterosexuals!
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