Why Global Elite is pushing Socialism on US

[NEUROSPORT]

those of you who are negroes as you're enjoying your welfare might be wondering - why is THE MAN trying to give you more freebies like universal health care ?

in this thread i don't give a **** whether universal health care will be good for grandmas and fat slobs who don't work or whether the rich will have to pay higher tax or any of that bull****. i don't care whether health costs will increase, decrease, remain the same etc. i don't care if quality of care goes up or down.

instead you have to ask the question - WHY ?

let's go back to our founding fathers. they revolted against their government over basically some minor issues like taxes. we have MUCH better reasons to revolt ( why are we fighting wars in Iraq, etc ? ) but we don't.

WHY ?

i'll tell you why. because we are ****ing ******s ! and we are ******S BY DESIGN.

how do you expect not to be a ***** when your government takes care of you from cradle to grave ?

our founding fathers didn't have your mother****ing welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance and certainly the King wouldn't pay if one of them needed to have a surgery to reduce the size of their stomach so they could lose some weight by eating less.

what they had was either something they got themselves or they were given by their parents. they received NOTHING from the state. they weren't on the state's nipple. they knew that you have to fight for everything that you have or want to have. this is why as soon as the state stepped out of the line it had its ass handed to it.

but now we have scientific *****fication going on. we are being engineered into couch potatoes who are unable to do anything for ourselves and must rely on the state for our most basic survival needs.

in my opinion we are already near the point where we will soon not be CAPABLE of a revolution REGARDLESS of how bad it gets. a few years form now if Obama ordered Junior High Schoolgirls lined up and ass raped them on public television for no reason other than to show contempt for the people of this nation - nothing would happen. People would simply say - well i would rebel, but i need my health universal health insurance. What if i get diabetes ?

but the national debt is already 12 trillion. if you think your taxes won't be going up DRASTICALLY some time in the future to pay off the interest on that mother****er then you are infinitely stupid.

today it might cost you 20% of your income to get health insurance so you're crying that its bad. but soon you will be paying 60% taxes as many people in Europe already do - think what is worse ?

But when it comes it will already be too late. you will have already become 100% complete *****. you will be afraid of everything. afraid of handling a gun. afraid of taking care of your own life. afraid of teaching your own children.

and certainly you would not be up to the task of fighting the world army with bare hands.

the government will then have COMPLETE CONTROL FOREVER and you will forever be a wretched slave.

WAKE THE **** UP and see what is going on around you.

Obama doesn't give a **** about you. Obama works for wall street, not the people. Nobody wants his health care system but he is pushing it through. FOR WHOM ? WHO ORDERED IT ?

those who have the REAL power in the world and intend to keep it.

 

[Jackboot]

"those of you who are negroes as you're enjoying your welfare might be wondering - why is THE MAN trying to give you more freebies like universal health care ?"

Again, I am confused by your constant rants, as 48% of this country is on the government dole, in one way or the other, and they are not all black.

I do however see where you are going with this, as misguided as you may be, you have stumbled on to something. The governments of the world would like nothing more then to make us all dependent on them for our very existence, and I will fight to see that this never happens here, not in this country!

 

[NEUROSPORT]

"those of you who are negroes as you're enjoying your welfare might be wondering - why is THE MAN trying to give you more freebies like universal health care ?"

Again, I am confused by your constant rants, as 48% of this country is on the government dole, in one way or the other, and they are not all black.

I do however see where you are going with this, as misguided as you may be, you have stumbled on to something. The governments of the world would like nothing more then to make us all dependent on them for our very existence, and I will fight to see that this never happens here, not in this country!

i took a stab at homeys because they failed to see why their president was Black. they took it as a sign of "change" ...

morons.

Black president merely UNDERSCORES the fact that politics is nothing more than a SOAP OPERA.

in Soviet Union protesting the government was unthinkable. not so much because a lot of people were going behind bars but for the same reason why you don't spit your parents in the face - you don't have spare ones. you may hate your parents but you still show them respect.

once the state becomes your parent you will no longer be able to fight it. you will hate it - but you won't do anything.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Ironically, Thomas Paine, the founding father who first really set the ball rolling in motion, advocated what would basically today be called the "welfare state":roll:

 

[RDS]

Like to add one more line to the thread.
And your constitution is more sacred than the bible.

 

[Jackboot]

Ironically, Thomas Paine, the founding father who first really set the ball rolling in motion, advocated what would basically today be called the "welfare state":roll:

What?

 

[the makeout hobo]

What?

Didn't read your history? From Agrarian Justice

In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity . . . [Government must] create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property. And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.

Just one example, but he was amazingly radical for the time.

 

[Jackboot]

Didn't read your history? From Agrarian Justice



Just one example, but he was amazingly radical for the time.

He never suggested any such thing, a welfare state, please, lol, how you liberals try to spin history.:lol:

 

[the makeout hobo]

He never suggested any such thing, a welfare state, please, lol, how you liberals try to spin history.:lol:

What would you consider his proposal for an old age pension and a grant upon adulthood? If those aren't at least social welfare programs, I don't know what is. I want to say there was also a passage advocating welfare for the poor but I'm not sure if I'm up for digging for it right now.

 

[Jackboot]

What would you consider his proposal for an old age pension and a grant upon adulthood? If those aren't at least social welfare programs, I don't know what is. I want to say there was also a passage advocating welfare for the poor but I'm not sure if I'm up for digging for it right now.

I am tired as well........I will address this another day..

 

[the makeout hobo]

I am tired as well........I will address this another day..

Alright... see ya later.

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Ironically, Thomas Paine, the founding father who first really set the ball rolling in motion, advocated what would basically today be called the "welfare state":roll:

that's great. however i tend to see JEFFERSON as THE founding father, and he said:

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

Jefferson also said:

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

and:

Every generation needs a new revolution.

and:

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

and:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants

and finally:

When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny

you WILL fear your government once your government has taken away all your money and can either grant or deny basic necessities to you. therefore a welfare state IS a tyrannical state.

 

[the makeout hobo]

that's great. however i tend to see JEFFERSON as THE founding father, and he said:



Jefferson also said:



and:



and:



and:



and finally:



you WILL fear your government once your government has taken away all your money and can either grant or deny basic necessities to you. therefore a welfare state IS a tyrannical state.

Umm.... There was two quotes directly related to "the welfare state"... With no context or source given to see exactly what he was saying, so they must be taken with a grain of salt. And tell me why we should listen to Jefferson over any other founding father... one important thing about them all was that they DID disagree with each other all the time, giving us different viewpoints and solutions. And why shouldn't Thomas Paine's words have merit, since his ideas sparked the revolution. He's practically the grandfather of this nation. Because he didn't agree with you?

He also said the constitution should be rewritten every few decades, I don't see you advocating for a constitutional convention.

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Umm.... There was two quotes directly related to "the welfare state"... With no context or source given to see exactly what he was saying, so they must be taken with a grain of salt. And tell me why we should listen to Jefferson over any other founding father... one important thing about them all was that they DID disagree with each other all the time, giving us different viewpoints and solutions. And why shouldn't Thomas Paine's words have merit, since his ideas sparked the revolution. He's practically the grandfather of this nation. Because he didn't agree with you?

He also said the constitution should be rewritten every few decades, I don't see you advocating for a constitutional convention.

because the constitution itself mostly represents ideas of Jefferson.

and this nation has had success when it has followed this constitution.

 

[the makeout hobo]

because the constitution itself mostly represents ideas of Jefferson.

and this nation has had success when it has followed this constitution.

Wrong. It mostly represents the ideas of Madison. And like I asked, do you support a new Constitutional convention? If so, why not?

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Wrong. It mostly represents the ideas of Madison. And like I asked, do you support a new Constitutional convention? If so, why not?

i don't support a new convention. i think even amendments should have never been allowed.

why ?

because our people are too brainwashed to be able to think.

democracy is a luxury that only an enlightened society can afford - of which there are none today in existence.

 

[the makeout hobo]

i don't support a new convention. i think even amendments should have never been allowed.

why ?

because our people are too brainwashed to be able to think.

democracy is a luxury that only an enlightened society can afford - of which there are none today in existence.

Without amendments: only white males 21 and older can vote... and they can own slaves... you support this?

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Without amendments: only white males 21 and older can vote... and they can own slaves... you support this?

well i am white, male and over 21.

haha.

call me silly but i would rather own slaves than be a slave.

 

[the makeout hobo]

well i am white, male and over 21.

haha.

call me silly but i would rather own slaves than be a slave.

Tell your girlfriend you want her voting rights taken away... let me know how it goes.

No one is legally a slave in our current system.

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Tell your girlfriend you want her voting rights taken away... let me know how it goes.

No one is legally a slave in our current system.

YOU are a slave.

 

[the makeout hobo]

YOU are a slave.

How am I a slave?:roll:

 

[PeteEU]

Would help if you defined "socialism".

 

[NEUROSPORT]

How am I a slave?:roll:

Cogito, ergo sum.

you THINK like a slave.

therefore you ARE a slave.

 

[NEUROSPORT]

Would help if you defined "socialism".

i meant Nanny Welfare State, like what you have in your Europe.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Cogito, ergo sum.

you THINK like a slave.

therefore you ARE a slave.

And how do I think like a slave, since you know my inner workings so well?