Why doesnt the left pay attention to those that know

[Logical1]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries. To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

 

[vegas giants]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries. To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

You personally love socialism

 

[istodolez]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

Well, to be fair, they often see social democracies like those in western Europe doing rather well. People able to function as good capitalists while not worrying that one illness will crater them into bankruptcy, that sort of thing.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries.

Sure, there are excesses and Soviet style communism is a failed ideology. But social democracies are actually quite pleasant and functional. There's a mid point between unfettered capitalism which results in poverty in the midst of the wealthiest nation on earth and Stalinist Soviet Dictatorships.

To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

Talk to people from Finland, Norway, and many other nations where healthcare is guaranteed, where life is quite good but not as "cut-throat" as we enjoy here in the US.

 

[BlueTex]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries. To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

Or maybe they know there are plenty of old fools who yell about socialism while collecting their social security and socialized Medicare and then just laugh at the hypocrisy.

 

[istodolez]

Or maybe they know there are plenty of old fools who yell about socialism while collecting their social security and socialized Medicare and then just laugh at the hypocrisy.

Bravo! Well played, sir!

 

[Logical1]

You personally love socialism

That is totally wrong.

 

[vegas giants]

That is totally wrong.

Do you refuse to participate in any socialist programs in the US?

 

[Logical1]

Well, to be fair, they often see social democracies like those in western Europe doing rather well. People able to function as good capitalists while not worrying that one illness will crater them into bankruptcy, that sort of thing.



Sure, there are excesses and Soviet style communism is a failed ideology. But social democracies are actually quite pleasant and functional. There's a mid point between unfettered capitalism which results in poverty in the midst of the wealthiest nation on earth and Stalinist Soviet Dictatorships.



Talk to people from Finland, Norway, and many other nations where healthcare is guaranteed, where life is quite good but not as "cut-throat" as we enjoy here in the US.

And in total they pay upwards of 60% of their income in taxes, EVERY YEAR!!!!

Remember our ancestor fought a war for our freedom over a 5% tax on tea.

 

[vegas giants]

And in total they pay upwards of 60% of their income in taxes, EVERY YEAR!!!!

They get a lot for that

 

[istodolez]

And in total they pay upwards of 60% of their income in taxes, EVERY YEAR!!!!

And that's bad why?

Personally I think of taxes as the price you pay for a society you want to live in.

My wife and I don't have kids but we still GLADLY pay property taxes that go to support local schools because we want an educated populace.

 

[BlueTex]

And in total they pay upwards of 60% of their income in taxes, EVERY YEAR!!!!

Remember our ancestor fought a war for our freedom over a 5% tax on tea.

And that they received no REPRESENTATION for that 5% tax.. Did they not teach that part at your school?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries. To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

No, they don’t “need to”.

Ignoring frantic right wing nuts who see “commies” everywhere would be a good idea though.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Remember our ancestor fought a war for our freedom over a 5% tax on tea.

If you don’t know the whole truth about something, you should avoid making references to it.

Remember the old saying, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool ...”

 

[aociswundumho]

Well, to be fair, they often see social democracies like those in western Europe doing rather well. People able to function as good capitalists while not worrying that one illness will crater them into bankruptcy, that sort of thing.

Social democracy is not socialism.

Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist

After seeing his country held up as an example in the US presidential debate, Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen used an address at Harvard to explain the Nordic model to a US audience suddenly very interested in Denmark.

www.thelocal.dk

Sure, there are excesses and Soviet style communism is a failed ideology.

And yet we have democratic socialists like Bernie, AOC, and others in the federal government. Tell me, do you support the idea of democratic socialism?

But social democracies are actually quite pleasant and functional.

If by "pleasant" you mean "poor", then you are correct:

OECD Better Life Index

www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org

There's a mid point between unfettered capitalism which results in poverty

As uncle Milty used to point out, living standards in the US and Europe rose the fastest when capitalism and markets were "unfettered".

 

[istodolez]

If by "pleasant" you mean "poor", then you are correct:

Interesting. I spent a lot of time working in Finland and Belgium with companies as part of my job and they didn't seem particularly poor. In fact one guy I worked with a lot in Finland had a cabin on the Baltic. I don't have a cabin.

They might not have had the latest laptop but then I no longer do either.

I DO know that my coworkers in Europe didn't live in abject terror of losing their ability to get healthcare if their job got axed.

 

[Logical1]

And that's bad why?

Personally I think of taxes as the price you pay for a society you want to live in.

My wife and I don't have kids but we still GLADLY pay property taxes that go to support local schools because we want an educated populace.

So you think some gov B'crat knows how better than you what your money should be spent on?

 

[pocket aces]

Unfortunately in the country we have a lot of young fools that got brain washed by commie professors. They have been brainwashed into thinking socialism works. But the truth is, it never has, and never will.

These young fools need to listen to people that have ESCAPED communist/socialist countries. To a one they warn all of us here in the US not to buy into the nonsense of socialism. EVERYONE need to listen to these people that have lived under socialism, and listen to their warning.

You don't know shit, so stop making threads claiming you do.

 

[Logical1]

The point remains, listen to people that actually lived under socialism. DO NOT listen to the wrong headed fools such a professors and their siren son of lolly pops and unicorns. They lie.

 

[istodolez]

So you think some gov B'crat knows how better than you what your money should be spent on?

No, I think societies are made up of large numbers of people and we all have common goals which we all kick in and pay for.

Unlike the ultrawealthy I don't enjoy any free lunches.

 

[BlueTex]

The point remains, listen to people that actually lived under socialism. DO NOT listen to the wrong headed fools such a professors and their siren son of lolly pops and unicorns. They lie.

Does that mean we should not listen to those 65 and older here in the US since they live under socialism? Shouldn't this crowd be demanding to be freed from the burdens of social security and their socialized medicine?

 

[Logical1]

Does that mean we should not listen to those 65 and older here in the US since they live under socialism? Shouldn't this crowd be demanding to be freed from the burdens of social security and their socialized medicine?

SS is a personal account people paid into. It is not socialism since everyone DOES NOT get back the same amount of money.

 

[BlueTex]

SS is a personal account people paid into. It is not socialism since everyone DOES NOT get back the same amount of money.

Complete nonsense... It is NOT a personal account at all... I noticed you avoided the biggest socialism, Medicare... Why?

 

[aociswundumho]

No, I think societies are made up of large numbers of people and we all have common goals

On the contrary, one of reasons socialism works so poorly is because we all have different goals and different opinions regarding how to achieve them.

which we all kick in and pay for.

You mean forced to pay for under the threat of violence.

 

[istodolez]

You mean forced to pay for under the threat of violence.

Oh no! A ZAP/NAP poster! Yay!

It must be such a BURDEN to be part of society. Thankfully you can still enjoy the roads and the clean water and electricity. You're welcome!

 

[vegas giants]

On the contrary, one of reasons socialism works so poorly is because we all have different goals and different opinions regarding how to achieve them.



You mean forced to pay for under the threat of violence.

The door leaving the country is wide open