Only you would try to make ignorance a virtue then argue it is when shown why it is not. To accomplish your stated goals, you should know about what you are trying to get rid of. Further before you impose on someone else's rights, you should make sure the narrow government need accomplishes that need. This requires knowledge and specificity.
I am not projecting anything, I am not attempting to characterize the opposition by portraying their argument in a certain way. Ardor and zeal?
I'm getting so tired of right wingers telling me I need to educate myself on guns in order to have an opinion on gun legislation. I don't care anything about learning about those awful killing machines any more than I care about learning about medieval torture devices. I couldn't care less what the difference is between a semi-automatic and an automatic or what the difference between the Child Killer 6000 and the Arab Impaler 7500 guns. Honestly, what does it matter?
Haven't we gone too far when we can own weapons that kill 50 people?
If Omar Mateen had had one of those guns that go POW! click-click POW! click-click POW! could he have killed 50 people? Could Adam Lanza have shot a classroom full of children with a gun like that?
The kind of guns that go ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta and fire lots of bullets really quickly need to go. You don't need it to hunt and you don't need it to defend your home. These guns are for killing and should not be in the possession of civilians!
We liberal's lack of knowledge of guns is just a red herring.
If you wish to remove your fellow citizens' Constitutional rights, you really ought to know a little something about what you are suggesting we ban. At least be able to identify it correctly and accurately and have some notion of what distinguishes it from whatever guns you aren't banning.
It's like someone who wants to ban free speech and doesn't know that libel and slander are already illegal....
I'm getting so tired of right wingers telling me I need to educate myself on guns in order to have an opinion on gun legislation. I don't care anything about learning about those awful killing machines any more than I care about learning about medieval torture devices. I couldn't care less what the difference is between a semi-automatic and an automatic or what the difference between the Child Killer 6000 and the Arab Impaler 7500 guns. Honestly, what does it matter?
Haven't we gone too far when we can own weapons that kill 50 people?
If Omar Mateen had had one of those guns that go POW! click-click POW! click-click POW! could he have killed 50 people? Could Adam Lanza have shot a classroom full of children with a gun like that?
The kind of guns that go ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta and fire lots of bullets really quickly need to go. You don't need it to hunt and you don't need it to defend your home. These guns are for killing and should not be in the possession of civilians!
We liberal's lack of knowledge of guns is just a red herring.
I do NOT want people driving through my neighborhood sub division going 65 miles per hours.
I do not want people allowed to drive drunk.
I do not want people to keep their drivers license after a certain number of violations for driving violations.
Now despite being born and raised and living my whole life in the Detroit area - I have very little technical information about how an engine actually operates or how a drive train works or how a brake system functions or any number of automotive technical issues that car geeks and shop rats may be far far far more familiar with than I am.
But I still am entitled to have an opinion as an American citizen about speed limits and the other things related to operating a motor vehicle.
And the same is true for guns and the issues of public policy with them.
It is a dishonest fraud of a tactic to try to see if a person knows the secret handshake as one of your own and then criticizing them if they do not.
You can have an uninformed opinion, but why would you want to?
I disagree, TD, because most chances are you will not encounter the same thing that a cop would and you won't be called out to take care of the same number of situations that police would. :shrug:if cops need such firepower in our civilian environment, then other civilians ought to be able to own it
I disagree, TD, because most chances are you will not encounter the same thing that a cop would and you won't be called out to take care of the same number of situations that police would. :shrug:
Seriously?
That was a huge waste of time and emotion on part, but thanks for documenting my message on opinions.
Good bye.
I simply explained to you the rights of an American citizen to haver an opinion about matters of public policy. It is sad that you do not respect that.
I remember when I got my degree majoring in Political Science a professor told our senior level class that even though we had a degree in the subject, our opinion at family gatherings, parties, bars, discussions and any other venue would be worth absolutely no more than a mechanic or a waitress or a salesman or anybody else for that matter. When a cardiac surgeon pontificates bout the heart - people listen and defer to them because they have the credentials. When a former ball player talks about the mysteries of hitting the slider - people listen and defer to them because they have the credentials. When your air conditioning guy tells you its not running because parts A and B are shot and need to be replaced - people listen and defer to them because they have the credentials.
But a degree with a major in Political Science makes your opinion no more accepted than somebody who sees old baseball cards at a resale shop.
Get used to it. Such is the nature of a democratic republic.
I disagree, TD, because most chances are you will not encounter the same thing that a cop would and you won't be called out to take care of the same number of situations that police would. :shrug:
I don't know about you but I live a nice life without guns or criminals. :shrug:We live among the criminals every day. Just because we arent addressing them in some law enforcement capacity doesnt mean we have fewer encounters.
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That has happened to me like me needing to keep a pipe wrench on me because I never know when I may need to fix a pipe. And it wouldn't surprise me to know that I would need the pipe wrench before the gun.No ... but if your are you would be attacked by an armed assailant without a gun, protective gear, any training or the assistance of other trained officers. If anything the need of a civilian to be armed is even greater.
I don't know about you but I live a nice life without guns or criminals. :shrug:
That has happened to me like me needing to keep a pipe wrench on me because I never know when I may need to fix a pipe. And it wouldn't surprise me to know that I would need the pipe wrench before the gun.
And that, Sir, is my point.You'll probably need that pipe wrench before you'll need a fire extinguisher too so why have one.
I disagree, TD, because most chances are you will not encounter the same thing that a cop would and you won't be called out to take care of the same number of situations that police would. :shrug:
I don't know about you but I live a nice life without guns or criminals. :shrug:
Yeah. But there are still numerous daily incidents where things do not happen as well.I believe the neighbors of that family in a wealthy connecticut area said the same thing-the one where the father was knocked unconscious, his wife and two daughters raped and sodomized, the mother forced to withdraw money from the bank (why she didn't tell the bank what was going on was a stupid mistake that cost her her life), and then all three women murdered-the two daughters burned alive. when I was mugged, I was apparently the first attempted mugging in a safe college area in years. I was also the last for a ten year period since the Mope was shot and his would be emulators were educated on how many people had carry permits in the area.
Sharon Tate and the LaBiancas also lived nice lives in a peaceful area too. that worked out really well for the Manson family. IN a tough neighborhood, chances they would have been shot, shanked, garroted or worse
Yeah. But there are still numerous daily incidents where things do not happen as well.
I'm getting so tired of right wingers telling me I need to educate myself on guns in order to have an opinion on gun legislation. I don't care anything about learning about those awful killing machines any more than I care about learning about medieval torture devices. I couldn't care less what the difference is between a semi-automatic and an automatic or what the difference between the Child Killer 6000 and the Arab Impaler 7500 guns. Honestly, what does it matter?
Haven't we gone too far when we can own weapons that kill 50 people?
If Omar Mateen had had one of those guns that go POW! click-click POW! click-click POW! could he have killed 50 people? Could Adam Lanza have shot a classroom full of children with a gun like that?
The kind of guns that go ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta and fire lots of bullets really quickly need to go. You don't need it to hunt and you don't need it to defend your home. These guns are for killing and should not be in the possession of civilians!
We liberal's lack of knowledge of guns is just a red herring.
I'm getting so tired of right wingers telling me I need to educate myself on guns in order to have an opinion on gun legislation. I don't care anything about learning about those awful killing machines any more than I care about learning about medieval torture devices. I couldn't care less what the difference is between a semi-automatic and an automatic or what the difference between the Child Killer 6000 and the Arab Impaler 7500 guns. Honestly, what does it matter?
Haven't we gone too far when we can own weapons that kill 50 people?
If Omar Mateen had had one of those guns that go POW! click-click POW! click-click POW! could he have killed 50 people? Could Adam Lanza have shot a classroom full of children with a gun like that?
The kind of guns that go ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta and fire lots of bullets really quickly need to go. You don't need it to hunt and you don't need it to defend your home. These guns are for killing and should not be in the possession of civilians!
We liberal's lack of knowledge of guns is just a red herring.
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