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If someone’s doing something that utterly defies common sense and neglects the responsibility of the government to protect its citizens, you can almost guarantee that person is a liberal.
::Major_Baker:: said:Surely this is a biological matter right? There is a 'violence gene' in blacks that whites don't contain?
aquapub said:Actually, the reason American blacks have this problem and other blacks don't is that only American blacks have self-serving Democrats leading them down the path of paranoid bigotry and professional victimhood.
"Nothing's my fault." :roll:
Caine said:Thats a pretty poor opinion you have there.
But to each his own.
aquapub said:I know. It's based on straight forward realities of human nature (make excuses for people, tell them they are victims, and that everything is about racial persecution and they will continue to fail at school, to commit violent crimes, and to be a general drain on society).
I'm sorry I don't have something people like you find more compelling like nifty, "Sharpton lies, black kids die" slogans, conspiracy theories, or shiny objects, but basic truths about human nature is all I felt like using (and it's all I SHOULD need).
aquapub said:But how about we stop fixating on my controversial analogy for a second and get back to whether or not/why Democrats side with criminals.
galenrox said:And it's the fact that people won't lose sleep over the abuse of criminals' rights that is misleading about pointing this out.
You've admitted that it is important to uphold criminals rights, and that if we are to be at all a just society we need to protect their rights too. Yet you are demonizing democrats for being on the unpopular side of this.
galenrox said:They are equal because essentially equal amounts of Democrats and Republicans have good understanding of criminal justice
galenrox said:I would like to see some sort of proof, evidence, or even a theoretical explanation that could possibly justify generalizing 1 action by 1 democrat to all democrats all of the time.
galenrox said:So what you're arguing is that there is a group of citizens, who've you've admitted to having rights, but their rights are of lesser value than those outside, to the extent that to fight for their rights is something that merits demonizing...QUOTE]
Stop right there. Fighting for fictional rights on their behalf, fighting for absurd things like extending furloughs (early release programs to help re-integrate prisoners into society) to people in for life without parole, and for child molesters, fighting for the right of child molesters to distribute "rape and escape" manuals to help undermine authorities, ALWAYS fighting for criminals AT THE EXPENSE OF civilization....THAT is what liberals do. THAT is what merits indignation and shame. But no one is demonizing, just objecting to factually provable betrayals of the people.
galenrox said:I can't believe you still don't understand.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY ****ING EXAMPLES YOU HAVE!!!
Correlation does not prove causation, do you want me to ****ing spell it out for you? C-O-R-R-E-L-A-T-I-O-N (SPACE) D-O-E-S (SPACE) N-O-T (SPACE) P-R-O-V-E (SPACE) C-A-U-S-A-T-I-O-N!
danarhea said:I completely agree with you. Proof of your argument is Hilary siding with Bush on Iraq.
galenrox said:Funny, certainly seems that criminal's rights are pretty real, at least as long as you consider the Constitution real law...
galenrox said:You keep claiming "THAT is what liberals do!" Evidence? You've shown me dozens of examples, do you consider that sufficient evidence to make such a sweeping generalization? If I could find dozens of examples of republicans bombing abortion clinics, would that be sufficient evidence that republicans bomb abortion clinics?
galenrox said:I assume this is a platform of the Democratic party, right? I mean, if this is at all a relevant example, it would have to be! Otherwise it would seem you've allowed yourself to be reduced to throwing **** at the wall and hoping some of it sticks
easyt65 said:1) Smoke and mirrors/diversion, 2) shouting you down, 3) insulting you. To your credit, you only reverted to option 1.
galenrox said:Misrepresentation, they just argue for the use of warrants.
galenrox said:Also a misrepresentation, President Bush never saught to have them treated as POW's, because as POW's they would be subject to the Geneva Convention. Bush sought to keep them as enemy combatants, thus in a class where there is no law, so he could do what he wanted.
galenrox said:Evidence? I assume that there is some objective evidence that shows that these programs are the LEAST responsible, LEAST accountable ones, cause I couldn't imagine you ever macarading opinion for fact
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