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danarhea said:For those who are still claiming that the indictments of Tom Delay are part of a witch hunt, documents directly linking Delay with the money laundering scheme have now been leaked from the grand jury. Looks like these documents are the smoking gun which shows that Tom Delay knew exactly what he was doing.
Photocopies of the incriminating Delay documents are here. They have all been combined into a PDF file.
Stu Ghatze said:Better hope not, ...otherwise there WILL be many democrats who had wished they had fallen on their own swords because mANY of them operate no different than what Delay did, & dioes with regard to campaign finance, & contributions to their own state party base hopefuls!
Ronnie EArle could not even get a previous grand jury to indict Delay because his own lawyers told Earlr, "there really is not any evidence of real wrongdoing here".
Earle simply just went grand jury hunting until he found one "willing" to get Delay, ..just as Earle had MADE the statement he was going to bring down Delay earlier!
Why...somebody has to "get Delay" because Delay is much too successful, effective & competent in his position, ...something his opponents are not very good at these days, ..right? (huh huh...) :smile:
I tell you this, ...IF the democrats are NOT successful in getting Delay prosecuted. (I know, you think it has nothing to do with the democrats huh?)
THe democrats are going to wish THEY never heard of Ronnie Earle, ..& you can take that to the bank!
danarhea said:Nice spin. Do you deny the existence of the documents? Also, if Democrats end up being indicted, I say let em all burn together.
Stu Ghatze said:Its NO spin, as everybody knows the democratic party never can get empowered by the voters UNLESS some scandal invented by democrats, or democrat crony's are successful at smearing through inuendo, rumor, or even the same behavior that they themselves engage in that is overlooked.
It amazes me, "liberals" want terror suspects given a fair trial for MURDER, or accomplice in murder, & yet....the democrats(most) of them want Delay, a politician to have the "aura" of guilt placed on him because of his successful politics!
Do liberals have any equivalency, or understand any differences here...? Sure, lets destroy a man because he hurts their cause!:roll:
I do not think before it is ALL over that Delay will be successfully prosecuted, & I'm willing to bet that there are probably a host of democrats who deep down do not want to see him prosecuted either, ...more for their own mischief that will label their party as hypocrites.
All politics is mostly dirty anyway, ...its just that bringing proof of breaking laws, & committing a felony knowingly is a far cry from what many think is being done here.
It appears as a political smear job. How does one get their name back, even if not prosecuted successfully. It is as IF they WANT the name of Tom Delay to forever be associated with guilt, & corruption etc.
That HAS ALWAYS been the artwork of the democratic party in its modus operandi.
Its the very same crap being attempted on Karl Rove. Why....? Because Rove is the architect of the DNC's misery & failure!
No mystery there, as is the attempted NEW smear job on Bill Frist, ...gotta destroy him too cause' he is the majority leader. Lets get him on phoney insider trading deals. Who cares when he sold his OWN stock, it was HIS OWN money, & his own family business?
Stu Ghatze said:Its NO spin, as everybody knows the democratic party never can get empowered by the voters UNLESS some scandal invented by democrats, or democrat crony's are successful at smearing through inuendo, rumor, or even the same behavior that they themselves engage in that is overlooked.
It amazes me, "liberals" want terror suspects given a fair trial for MURDER, or accomplice in murder, & yet....the democrats(most) of them want Delay, a politician to have the "aura" of guilt placed on him because of his successful politics!
Do liberals have any equivalency, or understand any differences here...? Sure, lets destroy a man because he hurts their cause!:roll:
I do not think before it is ALL over that Delay will be successfully prosecuted, & I'm willing to bet that there are probably a host of democrats who deep down do not want to see him prosecuted either, ...more for their own mischief that will label their party as hypocrites.
All politics is mostly dirty anyway, ...its just that bringing proof of breaking laws, & committing a felony knowingly is a far cry from what many think is being done here.
It appears as a political smear job. How does one get their name back, even if not prosecuted successfully. It is as IF they WANT the name of Tom Delay to forever be associated with guilt, & corruption etc.
That HAS ALWAYS been the artwork of the democratic party in its modus operandi.
Its the very same crap being attempted on Karl Rove. Why....? Because Rove is the architect of the DNC's misery & failure!
No mystery there, as is the attempted NEW smear job on Bill Frist, ...gotta destroy him too cause' he is the majority leader. Lets get him on phoney insider trading deals. Who cares when he sold his OWN stock, it was HIS OWN money, & his own family business?
danarhea said:I saw the same old stale arguments by the Democrats when it was Clinton being hauled before the grand jury, but there was a stain on a blue dress.
Once again, do you deny the existence of the documents?
FinnMacCool said:Stu how does that have anything to with the topic?
Can someone explain to me why Clinton is brought up in every single topic by Bush supporters? Is it cause you can't argue with any of this proof so instead you try to redirect our attention away from the main issue and back towards Clinton who has been out of the white house for many years now.
Mind explaining?
FinnMacCool said:Stu how does that have anything to with the topic?
Can someone explain to me why Clinton is brought up in every single topic by Bush supporters? Is it cause you can't argue with any of this proof so instead you try to redirect our attention away from the main issue and back towards Clinton who has been out of the white house for many years now.
Mind explaining?
FinnMacCool said:Stu how does that have anything to with the topic?
Can someone explain to me why Clinton is brought up in every single topic by Bush supporters? Is it cause you can't argue with any of this proof so instead you try to redirect our attention away from the main issue and back towards Clinton who has been out of the white house for many years now.
Mind explaining?
If that's all there is, any first year law student would be able to get the whole thing laughed out of court.danarhea said:Nice spin. Do you deny the existence of the documents? Also, if Democrats end up being indicted, I say let em all burn together.
aps said:Because they cannot say anything positive about Bush, they must bash Clinton (who hasn't been president in over 5 years).
Finn, Tom Toles did a cartoon after the 2004 election that showed the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the White House. Bush asks Rove, "Who can we blame now?" Rove says, "We always have Clinton."
What you have shown is inconsequential.danarhea said:Once again, do you deny the existence of the documents?
Fantasea said:If that's all there is, any first year law student would be able to get the whole thing laughed out of court.
aps said:Oh thank you so much, Ms. Legal Expert. :roll:
This is the standard operating procedure for the socialist-lib-dems who have been in a steady slide toward oblivion since the mid-term election during Clinton's first term.Hoot said:He's had his hand slapped more than once by House Ethics committees...
Except that GWB needs no defense; his accomplishments speak for themselves. The problem is that the socialist-lib-dems are so distraught with their losses at the polls for the past six consecutive national elections that they have adopted a "scorched earth" policy and refuse to acknowledge any of his successes.Hoot said:I call this the Sean Hannity defense.
Whenever anyone criticized Bush, Sean would usually change the subject by saying..."Oh yeah? Well let me tell you what Clinton said..."
This is part of the republican 'bait and switch' tactic. Can't offer a defense of Bush? Attack Clinton.
Fantasea said:Except that GWB needs no defense; his accomplishments speak for themselves. The problem is that the socialist-lib-dems are so distraught with their losses at the polls for the past six consecutive national elections that they have adopted a "scorched earth" policy and refuse to acknowledge any of his successes.
It's gratifying to know that my efforts to liven up a dull day are successful.aps said:Hey, Fantasea, if it makes you feel better to say those kinda things, you go right ahead. You are amusing the heck out of me. :2rofll:
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