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why are the Bush people, always being proscuted as criminals.

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I know, I know, did not someone ask why Democrats side with criminals.

So the Republicans feel that if they are convicted as felons, that they will gain support of the Democrats. :mrgreen:

So Bush, Cheney, and the Neoconservatives should go to prison and we democrats will be glad to support them.
 
Wrong question. Why is it that when Republicans are convicted of a crime they go to jail and Democrats don't? Could it be the court system recognizes that Democrats are essentially irresponsible and shouldn't be held to account?
 
Patrick, I must disagree. If a Democrat does a crime, they go to jail too. Just look at William Jefferson, who is likely going to do a long time in prison (and rightfully so.)
 
the makeout hobo said:
Patrick, I must disagree. If a Democrat does a crime, they go to jail too. Just look at William Jefferson, who is likely going to do a long time in prison (and rightfully so.)
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Gerry Studds of Massachusetts


How about a standing ovation from your peers instead of jailtime?



Q. Why don't congressmen use bookmarks?
A. Because they prefer bent over pages.
 
I really don't think something that happened in 1983 has any real relavence to now. Show me something that happened in THIS millenia.
 
the makeout hobo said:
I really don't think something that happened in 1983 has any real relavence to now. Show me something that happened in THIS millenia.
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Many of the same senators are in play today.


Lets impose those term limits shall we?


You dont like the reference so you dismiss it. Thats cool.


Look up

Robert Torricelli

""A Democrat, Torricelli was under investigation into whether he had taken illegal gifts and cash from a donor, David Chang.

Chang pleaded guilty to making $53,700 in illegal donations to Torricelli's 1996 Senate campaign and agreed last year to work with investigators. He told prosecutors that the senator accepted gifts such as Italian suits and a $8,100 Rolex watch, in return for intervening in Chang's business deals in North and South Korea.
""


The moral of the story...

"Friday, January 4, 2002

New York -- The federal investigation of New Jersey Sen. Robert Torricelli's finances has ended without charges filed"


And for the record history is nearly always relevant. Even if you never learn from it.
 
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Patrickt said:
Wrong question. Why is it that when Republicans are convicted of a crime they go to jail and Democrats don't? Could it be the court system recognizes that Democrats are essentially irresponsible and shouldn't be held to account?
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Oh, that makes sense. :roll:

Why are poor blacks held accountable for their crimes and sentenced to prison, while wealthy and middle-class whites who commit identical crimes are only sentenced to probation or court-mandated treatment?

Is it because the "system" recognizes that whites are inherently irresponsible and amoral, and therefore can't really be held accountable for their actions the way other races can be?

That's essentially what you're saying here.
 
William Jefferson has not found guilty of anything yet but how about Scooter Libby? Or, perhaps, Bill Clinton?
 
There have been obsessive compulsive partisans who have simply used every chance they could get to assault his administration from Day One. And in the beginning their numbers were relatively small so they recruited anyone and everyone they could to join in their efforts. They invited every subversive of every stripe, alien or domestic, and every anti US, anti GOP, anti Bush wing nut looking for a cause or someone to blame because there are volcanoes (Right. It doesn't make sense. That's the point.) to help create an undercurrent of antagonism and hostility toward GWB.

Now when their numbers have grown sufficiently large they know they will have a good enough chance of prosecuting administration officials in a mob environment where they have already primed the crazy court of public opinion against Bush.

They wait until the timing is right before they set the hook.

And even when the charges are as flimsy as the $54 million dry cleaning case they know they will snag SOMETHING OR SOMEONE no matter what.

So they just play their vicious, petty little games as a way of misdirecting the voters from paying attention to their pandering on the war.
 
Patrickt said:
Wrong question. Why is it that when Republicans are convicted of a crime they go to jail and Democrats don't? Could it be the court system recognizes that Democrats are essentially irresponsible and shouldn't be held to account?
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HUH? Give examples of Democrats who have been convicted in a court of law (as opposed to pleading out) and not gone to jail? Thank you. Oh, and give examples of Republicans who have been convicted and gone to jail.
 
Patrickt said:
Wrong question. Why is it that when Republicans are convicted of a crime they go to jail and Democrats don't? Could it be the court system recognizes that Democrats are essentially irresponsible and shouldn't be held to account?
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Could it be that most of the crimes committed by Republicans are far more serious (treason, espionage, massive theft, corporate dishonesty, ect...) than those of the Democrats?
 
Stop letting your political pipe-dreams shy you away from the real issues.


Niether side of the opinion is important. Republicans are *******s. Democrats are ignorant. Americans are all greedy jerks and life generally sucks. Surprise! Get over it; if you haven't already.
 

1) Who blames Bush for volcanoes? If one appeared in New Orleans and erupted and FEMA took over a week to evacuate any significant number of people, Democrats might dare to blame him, however

2) Perhaps you could show examples of this "snagging". Libby lied to a judge (who was liberal as well, I guess?) while being tried about his boss possibly giving away the identity of a CIA agent. Sounds like a dry-cleaning lawsuit to me. :roll:

3) When you look at "misdirecting the voters", look no farther than Bush's "Look! A gay marriage!" campaign of '04 and Giuliani's "next 9/11" quote to see who is misdirecting. Perhaps at the "flag-burner-furor" as well? And of course, Bush's push-polling in the Republican nominations of 2000.
 
Why are the Bush people being prosecuted as criminals?

Evidence.

Why are the Bush people being convicted as criminals?

Evidence.

Why are the Bush people going to prison?

Evidence.

:mrgreen:
 

Who has been prosecuted other than Libby???? Compared to the Clinton Administration, the "Bush people" are looking like a bunch of choir boys.
 
why, are the bush-hating, people always having such terrible, grammar?:lol:
 
Originally Posted by RightinNYC
why, are the bush-hating, people always having such terrible, grammar?
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I ain't got no reason why that thar is!
 
Stinger said:
Heck they applauded Clinton for his criminal acts.
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Clinton got laid. End of story. That fatty just wanted to get paid ... and I don't blame her, because that's capitalism. If anything Bill is a victim of capitalism. I AM ALL FOR A TRIAL OF IMPEACHMENT AGAINST CAPITALISM!!!

...but something tells me no one here will sign on for that with me. :roll: :rofl




errr *straightens his imaginary tie*
I apologize. Capitalism is a gift from God.
*glares right*
*glares left*
Really, *clears throat, speaks a bit louder* CAPITALISM IS THE GREATEST!!
*glares around again*
:mrgreen:


RightinNYC said:
why, are the bush-hating, people always having such terrible, grammar?:lol:
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By the way, I hate bush ... How's my grammar? Good, no? I make a typo now and then, but I try hard to fix it before I can't edit anymore. I'll try harder to be more perfect for his highness, the Lord General, Dictator of the Holy See, Leader of the Fourth Reich, his most emminant Emperor RightinNYC. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) But, more importantly, Are you saying you LIKE Bush? Please clarify so we can troll your ideology.:mrgreen:
 
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Diuretic said:
Why are the Bush people being prosecuted as criminals?

Evidence.

Why are the Bush people being convicted as criminals?

Evidence.

Why are the Bush people going to prison?

Evidence.

:mrgreen:
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Please cite the evidence that was beyond a reasonable doubt that Libby purposely and knowingly lied for the purpose of obstructing justice and what was the obstruction of justice.
 
Onine said:
Clinton got laid.
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Nope, Jones turned him down and then he threatened her by mentioning he was good friends with her boss so if she knew better she wouldn't say anything about his trying to molest her.

End of story.
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No that was just the beginning. He then knowingly and for the purpose of obstructing a judicial proceeding submitted a false affidavit setting up his young, naive mistress for a prison term.
 


It is important to recall that socialism is a system of corruption, of the appropriation of as much wealth as possible. Capitalism creates wealth while socialism never creates wealth, but only takes wealth and ultimately consumes and destroys it. Therefore criminality is an accepted part of socialism. The most corrupt nations in the world today are communist and socialist, like Mexico. In Amercia, business is highly regulated, while corruption is a part of everyday life in the cities, where the power base of socialism resides. Ever wonder why every member of organized crime is a Democrat? It started in the 1930s when organized labor hired organized crime to help "defend" its interests. After a while, labor decided to cut organized crime in on a percentage of the action, and the two became entwined.
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why are the Bush people, always being proscuted as criminals.
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Why are the Bush critics always exaggerating and getting their spelling and punctuation wrong? (4 in one sentence! :mrgreen: :2wave: )
 
The difference between Republicans and Democrats is like comparing Wiccan's to Saints. They're both saying the same things. The only difference is one really means it while the other really doesn't. I am sincerely convinced that Bush is doing what he thinks is bad for the country. At this point ... who can possibly claim otherwise? Clinton was a **** up and Bush is the Anti-Christ. There's the differences for you "debaters".


How's my punctuation, arsevitz?:roll: :spin:
If that's all you got to fall back on then I'm going to rip you apart every single time.

Btw, if "socialism is a system of corruption" ............What in God's name do you call what we have now? This I GOT to hear.:roll:
 
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