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Why “God” is not needed for a code of ethics

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Secular ethics is a branch of moral philosophy in which ethics is based solely on human faculties such as logic, empathy, reason or moral intuition, and not derived from belief in supernatural revelation or guidance—a source of ethics in many religions. Secular ethics refers to any ethical system that does not draw on the supernatural, and includes humanism, secularism and freethinking.

Humanists endorse universal morality based on the commonality of human nature, and that knowledge of right and wrong is based on our best understanding of our individual and joint interests, rather than stemming from a transcendental or arbitrarily local source, therefore rejecting faith completely as a basis for action. The humanist ethics goal is a search for viable individual, social and political principles of conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility, thus ultimately eliminating human suffering.
Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.
The Dalai Lama has said that compassion and affection are human values independent of religion: "We need these human values. I call these secular ethics, secular beliefs. There’s no relationship with any particular religion. Even without religion, even as nonbelievers, we have the capacity to promote these things."


“Good without God”. No superstition, myths, or “divine inspiration” needed. Just humans communicating with one another to determine those ethical standards that will best lead to a long-term viable democratic society.
 
Frankly, it is ignorant to think religion is needed for ethics and morals.
They evolved out of self preservation.

IMHO i believe God writes his law on our hearts.

and yes God's law does preserve his creation.


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If you build your sense of right and wrong on a religious based foundation alone, if you begin to doubt that church, those pastors and that Bible, the cracks in the foundation are bound to weaken your sense of right and wrong, good and evil as well. Your crisis in morality, can become everyone elses problem pretty qui' ckly. So even if you are religious, as a parent don't rest your laurels on Junior being exposed to the 10 commandments. You still need to be able to teach Junior it is wrong to steal using secular arguments to supplement your 'God is watching you...' line of faith based coercion.
 
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Without objective morality, everything is permissible to someone...
All morality IS subjective.
But some morals are common throughout humanity. Like cold blooded murder and theft of property.
 
And who sets them?

The community, the tribe, the country
Duh!

And just so you understand, communties, tribes and nations come together naturally for mutual benefit.

This stuff is very easy to understand if one is reasoned and uses critical thinking. Or, they could have learned thus in school as few truly think independently.
 
The community, the tribe, the country
Duh!

And just so you understand, communties, tribes and nations come together naturally for mutual benefit.

This stuff is very easy to understand if one is reasoned and uses critical thinking. Or, they could have learned thus in school as few truly think independently.
Then they are subjective, depending on the community/tribe/country...
 
Then they are subjective, depending on the community/tribe/country...

Of course they are and always have been from tribe to tribe.
But the bottom line is, they work toward the greater good in their determination.
 

Why “God” is not needed for a code of ethics​

correct ethics and morals are subjective
an individual may have person objective morals or groups of people may agree on morals/ethics but they are factually subjective by defintions
 
Without objective morality, everything is permissible to someone...
Objective morality is an oxymoron.

Ethics are principles of morality that society agree to. Where as morality is personal choice of what morals a person chooses to follow.

That you for example may personally choose to follow a morality of kindness to others is a personal choice. That society favours an ethical standard of kindness to others is the creation of an objective standard.
 
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Then they are not subjective...
Sure they are. For not 100% of humanity agrees on the levels on what is cold blooded murder, for some killing is allowed everywhere.

And theft itself is highly subjective but laws, which varies, also gives the legal systems a guideline to what is or isn't theft.

Everything but some math and physics is subjective.

Even the commandment, thou shall not kill, has been made subjective by every human.

For according to the objective words of the commandment, no one can kill. Ever.
 
Without objective morality,
by defintion there is no such thing in the world outside of a persons subjective feelings
 
Of course they are and always have been from tribe to tribe.
But the bottom line is, they work toward the greater good in their determination.
The laws I obey do not change, regardless of how often man's laws change...
 
The laws I obey do not change, regardless of how often man's laws change...

Well,that is not a very intellectual approach.
But, one must abandon critical thinking to belive in God or any type make belive to begin with.
 
True, not everyone understands God's Word...

With all respect, this post is ridiculous.
First off it assumes there is a God which is not rational to start and then, how on earth would certain people understand this fictional God and not others?

Can you see how illogical your post is?
 
With all respect, this post is ridiculous.
First off it assumes there is a God which is not rational to start and then, how on earth would certain people understand this fictional God and not others?

Can you see how illogical your post is?
Not at all...without the help of the holy spirit, there is no understanding...

"Then he opened up their minds fully to grasp the meaning of the Scriptures." Luke 24:45
 
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