Who murdered Donald Young?

[marke]

"Donald Young's bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying."

"Norma Jean Young revealed to the Globe that her son Donald, who was openly gay, was a 'close friend' of Obama. Mrs. Young also believes the Chicago Police Department has not placed a high priority on finding the killers of her son."

Donald Young | CounterPsyOps

This unsolved murder, like the murders of Seth Rich and John Kennedy, is ripe for the formulation of conspiracy theories. Before getting into any various conspiracy theories let us first establish the indisputable facts of the case which are not debatable conspiracies:

1. Donald Young was the openly gay choir director of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.
2. He was gunned down in his apartment on December 23, 2007.
3. His mother thinks his assassination was connected to the emerging Obama campaign for president.
4. Norma Jean Young is the mother of the slain choir director, is a former employee of the Chicago PD, and is on record with her views about the murder.
5. The Chicago PD has not solved the murder.
6. Obama was a member of the church for years and was friends with Donald Young.
7. Another openly gay member of the same church, Larry Bland, was also murdered the month before, on November 17, 2007, under suspicious circumstances. The bodies of both Bland and Young were riddled with bullets.

Whatever happened can be the source of conspiracy theories, but the facts themselves are not conspiracy theories.

 

[Lex Talionis]

 

[marke]

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I bet you think Donald Young was not even a real person. I see the fact-denying conspiracies have already begun.

 

[Lex Talionis]

This is the moronic conspiracy theory that Donald Young and Obama were gay lovers. You are pedaling garbage from site that offers nothing to society except to stoke fear in to the low intelligence idiots that read it.

Just turn off your computer. Your life will be better without it.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Take a break from the CT sites, Marke.

In fact, take a moratorium from the computer.

You will feel much better.

 

[Robertinfremont]

The Obama cult is well and thriving.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Donald Trump had Donald Young murdered so he could play the card if he ran against Obama later.

 

[marke]

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Very persuasive compelling testimony from Larry Sinclair. There is no doubt why desperate democrat thugs want this information branded as a conspiracy theory and dismissed without the slightest investigation undertaken to prove or disprove the claims. Democrats are notoriously eager to dismiss all allegations of crime and abuse raised against democrat party members.

https://americanfreepress.net/podcast/LarrySinclair128Part2.mp3

Beau Biden filed false charges against Sinclair and had him arrested in DC on bogus warrants from Delaware when he began going public with his testimony. These crooks moved quickly and fiercely to silence his testimony before it damaged Obama and Biden on the democrat presidential ticket.

Christine Blaisey Ford's testimony never passed the smell test of believability, but Sinclair's testimony is extremely hard to disbelieve and his facts and details are unimpeachable.

 

[marke]

This is the moronic conspiracy theory that Donald Young and Obama were gay lovers. You are pedaling garbage from site that offers nothing to society except to stoke fear in to the low intelligence idiots that read it.

Just turn off your computer. Your life will be better without it.

You claim it is a conspiracy theory and yet you do not bother to explain how you know that for a fact. You cannot prove the facts are wrong and you demonstrate too eager a willingness to believe lies told you by people desperate to deceive others into thinking the truth is a lying conspiracy theory instead of the truth. That is the wrong approach to take.

I wish people would stop claiming "conspiracy theory" every time they hear something they absolutely do not want to hear or believe. They should prove the lie is wrong by posting refutations that expose the lie, it it is a lie, instead of hoping or expecting others to simply blindly take their opinionated word for it.

 

[marke]

Take a break from the CT sites, Marke.

In fact, take a moratorium from the computer.

You will feel much better.

Biden is running for president. According to Larry Sinclair in public statements with verified facts and details Beau Biden had Sinclair arrested in DC on false charged and a bogus warrant issued in Delaware in order to stop him from damaging Obama and Biden inn the coming primaries. Sinclair makes a very compelling and believable case worth serious HONEST investigation, especially if Biden is now running again for national office. If Biden was and is crooked then he needs to be exposes, not protected or immunized from prying investigating eyes.

 

[marke]

Take a break from the CT sites, Marke.

In fact, take a moratorium from the computer.

You will feel much better.

It is never too late to investigate these claims and positively prove or disprove them. Especially since the same alleged crooks who engineered Obama's election are now seeking to get Biden elected, and Biden and his son are alleged by Sinclair's testimony to have had him arrested and charged on false charges to shut him up in 2008.


https://americanfreepress.net/podcast/LarrySinclair128Part2.mp3

 

[marke]

Donald Trump had Donald Young murdered so he could play the card if he ran against Obama later.

No, the police don't have a clue who gunned down young in his apartment with multiple bullet wounds, and it does not look like they are any more interested in finding the killers than are his former friends Obama and Obama's and Young's pastor, Jeremiah Wright. And as far as I know nobody has said anything about the FBI getting involved.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Biden is running for president. According to Larry Sinclair in public statements with verified facts and details Beau Biden had Sinclair arrested in DC on false charged and a bogus warrant issued in Delaware in order to stop him from damaging Obama and Biden inn the coming primaries. Sinclair makes a very compelling and believable case worth serious HONEST investigation, especially if Biden is now running again for national office. If Biden was and is crooked then he needs to be exposes, not protected or immunized from prying investigating eyes.

Your alt facts are in the waste basket, filed for future reference.

Yes, Trump needs to be exposed, "not protected from prying eyes."

 

[marke]

Your alt facts are in the waste basket, filed for future reference.

Yes, Trump needs to be exposed, "not protected from prying eyes."

Democrats. You can depend on them shouting CONSPIRACY THEORY! every time anyone questions the details about suspected democrat corruption. But you cannot convince them that lying accusations and false narratives about secret Russian or republican dealings or intentions are nothing but CONSPIRACY THEORIES even if the dummies think false allegations based upon lying conspiracy theories are grounds for unjustly impeaching republicans.

 

[notquiteright]

Biden is running for president. According to Larry Sinclair in public statements with verified facts and details Beau Biden had Sinclair arrested in DC on false charged and a bogus warrant issued in Delaware in order to stop him from damaging Obama and Biden inn the coming primaries. Sinclair makes a very compelling and believable case worth serious HONEST investigation, especially if Biden is now running again for national office. If Biden was and is crooked then he needs to be exposes, not protected or immunized from prying investigating eyes.

Yeah, seems some on the Rabid Right sit in their grandmother's basement and waste countless hours fabricating crap. 'According to'... Joe DiGenova Hillary just days before the election was going to be indicted, the FBI has 'overwhelming' evidence against her. 'According to' same Joe 4 years later two members of Congress are going to be indicted. Let's take rabid right interviews with a ton of salt shall we... :roll:

Do you have a link to the 'verified facts and details'??? Was Sinclair held incommunicado until after the election? Some court records would be nice...

Now perhaps the team tRump had looking into Obama's birth certificate could investigate Sinclair's allegations... :lol:

Now this is a new spin on the old 'Clinton mob deaths' crapola. Seems everyone who died anywhere near the Clintons or Arkansas was murdered to protect Bill... often the accusations were found to be outright lies. The Linda Collins murder is a great example- it was claimed she was just about to testify against Bill and was murdered in her house. Fact is she was a one term house and then state senator and had little if any contact with Bill, she was out of office and there was no grand jury at that time... :doh

I know the rabid right needs something to cling too as tRumps red wave has turned a rather nice shade of blue... eace

 

[iguanaman]

You claim it is a conspiracy theory and yet you do not bother to explain how you know that for a fact. You cannot prove the facts are wrong and you demonstrate too eager a willingness to believe lies told you by people desperate to deceive others into thinking the truth is a lying conspiracy theory instead of the truth. That is the wrong approach to take.

I wish people would stop claiming "conspiracy theory" every time they hear something they absolutely do not want to hear or believe. They should prove the lie is wrong by posting refutations that expose the lie, it it is a lie, instead of hoping or expecting others to simply blindly take their opinionated word for it.

Definition of conspiracy theory
: a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators.

You post fits the definition perfectly. Plus it is evidence free.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Yeah, seems some on the Rabid Right sit in their grandmother's basement and waste countless hours fabricating crap. 'According to'... Joe DiGenova Hillary just days before the election was going to be indicted, the FBI has 'overwhelming' evidence against her. 'According to' same Joe 4 years later two members of Congress are going to be indicted. Let's take rabid right interviews with a ton of salt shall we... :roll:

Do you have a link to the 'verified facts and details'??? Was Sinclair held incommunicado until after the election? Some court records would be nice...

Now perhaps the team tRump had looking into Obama's birth certificate could investigate Sinclair's allegations... :lol:

Now this is a new spin on the old 'Clinton mob deaths' crapola. Seems everyone who died anywhere near the Clintons or Arkansas was murdered to protect Bill... often the accusations were found to be outright lies. The Linda Collins murder is a great example- it was claimed she was just about to testify against Bill and was murdered in her house. Fact is she was a one term house and then state senator and had little if any contact with Bill, she was out of office and there was no grand jury at that time... :doh

I know the rabid right needs something to cling too as tRumps red wave has turned a rather nice shade of blue... eace

If you think that is bad, at least you know what Democrats and their posts look like when they whine about Trump.

My god, a good dose of your own medicine is needed and amusing.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Definition of conspiracy theory
: a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators.

You post fits the definition perfectly. Plus it is evidence free.

I hope you now realize what Schiff and the Democrats claims look like to smart posters. His shifty stuff was treated as truth. But it was all lies.

 

[iguanaman]

I hope you now realize what Schiff and the Democrats claims look like to smart posters. His shifty stuff was treated as truth. But it was all lies.

According to Lamar Alexander Schiff proved his case beyond any doubt. Trump did everything he claimed he did.

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he believes President Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to "encourage" its government to investigate the Bidens, but that he will vote to acquit Trump on Wednesday because he believes the consequences of the president's actions should be decided in the next election.

Lamar Alexander says House proved Trump withheld aid to pressure Ukraine - Axios

 

[marke]

Yeah, seems some on the Rabid Right sit in their grandmother's basement and waste countless hours fabricating crap. 'According to'... Joe DiGenova Hillary just days before the election was going to be indicted, the FBI has 'overwhelming' evidence against her. 'According to' same Joe 4 years later two members of Congress are going to be indicted. Let's take rabid right interviews with a ton of salt shall we... :roll:

Do you have a link to the 'verified facts and details'??? Was Sinclair held incommunicado until after the election? Some court records would be nice...

Now perhaps the team tRump had looking into Obama's birth certificate could investigate Sinclair's allegations... :lol:

Now this is a new spin on the old 'Clinton mob deaths' crapola. Seems everyone who died anywhere near the Clintons or Arkansas was murdered to protect Bill... often the accusations were found to be outright lies. The Linda Collins murder is a great example- it was claimed she was just about to testify against Bill and was murdered in her house. Fact is she was a one term house and then state senator and had little if any contact with Bill, she was out of office and there was no grand jury at that time... :doh

I know the rabid right needs something to cling too as tRumps red wave has turned a rather nice shade of blue... eace

Larry Sinclair said he talked with Donald Young just days before he was murdered. Larry Sinclair said a lot of things and has even written a book which sold on Amazon and Barnes and Nobel. But how can those who want the truth to come out in spite of all the bad opinions and lies verify Sinclair's claims? We can check claims that can be verified against public records for one method. We can dig into court records in Delaware and see if Beau Biden did file charges against Young the day he spoke at the press club in DC and see if he was arrested and taken to Delaware to face bogus charges. We can research the legitimacy of the warrants, the evidence to support the charges and the timing of all this to see if it shows evidence of political motivation and not just judgment.

I believe the recorded interview is compelling and forceful. Very believable. It is wrong for anyone to dismiss the persuasive evidence without allowing so much as a cursory examination, like democrats try to get people to do by claiming crimes by democrats are conspiracy theories which should never be investigated for that reason.


larry bland was murdered - Google Search

 

[marke]

Definition of conspiracy theory
: a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators.

You post fits the definition perfectly. Plus it is evidence free.

Democrat definition of conspiracy theory: Any alleged crime committed by one or more democrats in which the people planning the crime were not caught. Because such crimes are conspiracy theories they should never be investigated.

Trump's alleged collusion with Russians is not a conspiracy theory and should be investigated nonstop until Trump finally leaves the WH, matter what exonerations may surface which clear him of any guilt along the way.

However, the assassination of Seth Rich is a conspiracy theory according to democrats because Rich was closely linked to the DNC and everyone 'knows' that any claim of possible corruption at the DNC must be labeled a conspiracy theory.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

"Donald Young's bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying."

"Norma Jean Young revealed to the Globe that her son Donald, who was openly gay, was a 'close friend' of Obama. Mrs. Young also believes the Chicago Police Department has not placed a high priority on finding the killers of her son."

Donald Young | CounterPsyOps

This unsolved murder, like the murders of Seth Rich and John Kennedy, is ripe for the formulation of conspiracy theories. Before getting into any various conspiracy theories let us first establish the indisputable facts of the case which are not debatable conspiracies:

1. Donald Young was the openly gay choir director of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.
2. He was gunned down in his apartment on December 23, 2007.
3. His mother thinks his assassination was connected to the emerging Obama campaign for president.
4. Norma Jean Young is the mother of the slain choir director, is a former employee of the Chicago PD, and is on record with her views about the murder.
5. The Chicago PD has not solved the murder.
6. Obama was a member of the church for years and was friends with Donald Young.
7. Another openly gay member of the same church, Larry Bland, was also murdered the month before, on November 17, 2007, under suspicious circumstances. The bodies of both Bland and Young were riddled with bullets.

Whatever happened can be the source of conspiracy theories, but the facts themselves are not conspiracy theories.

All availble evidence indicates that it was a hit that was arranged and paid for by one Donald John twump.

 

[jamesbyoung]

I hope you now realize what Schiff and the Democrats claims look like to smart posters. His shifty stuff was treated as truth. But it was all lies.

The conspiracy theory righties are not smart posters, that's the point. They turn off independent, centrist fact-seeking voters from Trump.

 

[iguanaman]

Democrat definition of conspiracy theory: Any alleged crime committed by one or more democrats in which the people planning the crime were not caught. Because such crimes are conspiracy theories they should never be investigated.

Trump's alleged collusion with Russians is not a conspiracy theory and should be investigated nonstop until Trump finally leaves the WH, matter what exonerations may surface which clear him of any guilt along the way.

However, the assassination of Seth Rich is a conspiracy theory according to democrats because Rich was closely linked to the DNC and everyone 'knows' that any claim of possible corruption at the DNC must be labeled a conspiracy theory.

The idea that that both those murders were not investigated by police is what makes them both a classic CT. Automatically blaming it on Democrats with zero evidence is what right wing CT'ers do and you fall for it. Trump's words and behavior toward Putin along with the ironclad evidence of 100's of contacts between Russian operatives and the Trump campaign make Russian collusion a forgone conclusion. Then there is the Trump Tower Moscow negotiations that were going on for the entire campaign. But colluding with Russia is not a crime and the only thing that stopped Mueller from claiming a criminal conspiracy was the lack of a signed document between Trump and Putin. Our laws on conspiracy are quite strict.

 

[jamesbyoung]

You claim it is a conspiracy theory and yet you do not bother to explain how you know that for a fact. You cannot prove the facts are wrong and you demonstrate too eager a willingness to believe lies told you by people desperate to deceive others into thinking the truth is a lying conspiracy theory instead of the truth. That is the wrong approach to take.

I wish people would stop claiming "conspiracy theory" every time they hear something they absolutely do not want to hear or believe. They should prove the lie is wrong by posting refutations that expose the lie, it it is a lie, instead of hoping or expecting others to simply blindly take their opinionated word for it.

You claim it is not a conspiracy theory and yet you do not bother to explain the facts are right and you demonstrate too eager a willingness to believe lies told you by people desperate to deceive others into thinking the truth is a lying conspiracy theory instead of the truth. That is the wrong approach to take.

Marke, people are not simply blindly your opinionated word for it.