Korimyr the Rat said:There's no party currently in American politics that I support without grave reservations about their policies and their ability to lead.
Given the amount of social upheaval that the loss of the Republicans and Democrats would cause, though... I think the best answer would be my political party, composed of myself and my loyal followers.
AnarchyintheUS said:Assuming our system of government is still in place, but the Democrats and Republicans lose power, which party do you want to be in power?
\Well I also agree with you that there is no party in th United States that supports my belief
AnarchyintheUS said:Well I also agree with you that there is no party in th United States that supports my belief, mainly because there cannot be a party for Anarchists because it is counterproductive. But if we assume that system we have remains in place I would side with either the Workers' World Party, or the Socialist Workers' Party.
The Real McCoy said:How can you possibly consider yourself an anarchist while advocating socialism? The two ideologies are diametrically opposed. A lack of government would mean lack of government intervention in the economy and thus, a free market (capitalism.)
Comrade Brian said:McCoy, your lack of knowledge of such systems is extreme, yet understandeable.
Comrade Brian said:First off, a majority of anarchists are anti-capitalist and sympethetic to communal systems.
Comrade Brian said:Mainly because the largest attraction to anarchism is to destroy "oppression" in all forms, and anarchists view the state as the ultimate source of oppression.
Comrade Brian said:Because also too, socialism is not some state-owned economy, as it has often been taught, and falsely too. Also your notion, again, that anarchism=capitalism is poor, tell me where you have seen any anarcho-capitalist societies around or in the past.
Comrade Brian said:I can't find any. Then tell me where stateless societies have existed in the past. They worked under communal systems.
Comrade Brian said:Also anarchism is the advocation of the immediate abolition of the state. Something I find to be personally utopian.
Comrade Brian said:tell me where you have seen any anarcho-capitalist societies around or in the past. I can't find any.
That's because anarchism is an idealistic, utopian fantasy.Lack of knowledge? It's realistic, as opposed to an idealistic fantasy that has thus far failed to manifest in any modern nation and I see no reason to believe it will ever succeed.
Yea, I'm friends with a few. They eat a lot of mushrooms and acid.
I do and do not agree with you. Maybe I should have stated as much as possible, without extermination.Destory oppression? That would require the extermination of the human race.
Nowhere, but then again, an anarcho-capitalist would be having much more success, comparing that anarcho-capitalists, don't oppose capitalism, thay are just as utopian as anarch-syndicalists.Where have you seen any anarcho-syndacalist societies?
No substantial ones have existed in modern history.
The "state" will never be "abolished", the only way to make a stateless society is for the state to "whither away", after the abolishment of classes.Okay, say the state is abolished. Supply and demand would still exist. Commerce would still exist. The market would be free. Labor would be naturally divided to supply products/services efficiently. Am I getting something wrong here?
Comrade Brian said:The "state" will never be "abolished", the only way to make a stateless society is for the state to "whither away", after the abolishment of classes.
Those who claim that government is the source of social order say that in its absence there would be violence, chaos, and a low standard of living. They cite civil wars in Africa, drug wars in South America, or even Gengis Khan in Mongolia. They claim that these things, which are actually examples of competing governments, are what life without government will produce.
Another common objection to stateless legal enforcement systems is to ask for "just one example of where it has worked."
Medieval Iceland illustrates an actual and well-documented historical example of how a stateless legal order can work and it provides insights as to how we might create a more just and efficient society today.
-Demosthenes- said:Green president, republican congress, and liberal (democrat) judiciary.
Then they can work it out or destroy us all
I think that it would force compromise and solidify a three party based system where two parties would ally only on certain issues, forcing communication between parties and therefore more actual debate/communication in politics.
-Demosthenes- said:Liberatarians in in power, cool. All the power, then partisan politics only changes, it does not go away.
-Demosthenes- said:Provided that they are perfect and will always be perfect.
Good luck.
-Demosthenes- said:Provided that they are perfect and will always be perfect.
Good luck.
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