White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.[W:324]

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j-mac said:

Ok, so, forgive me if I say that you're parsing just a little here....You say that they messed up the "communication" of this incident..

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What I've been disappointed to observe is that Obama has been consistently crap in communicating to the public in the aftermath of just about any crisis. He just...seizes up.

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iguanaman said:

They also kept qualifying the statement by adding "according to the best information we have now". We now know that was a reference to the CIA who wanted that story to be told simply to cover themselves for not catching the terrorists planned attack, or whatever. That is what you guys find so sinister? The CIA covering itself for screwing up? You'd think you would have been used to it after GW. Are you sure it isn't that Romney lost the election? He did so deal with it.

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Please supply links and credible support for these assertions.

There may have been one or two such statements, but not all and in fact few.

Hillary Clinton made no such qualifier when she so disgusting shamed the lives lost with her highly politicized comments standing over that coffin.

And Obama made no such statement throughout the campaign.

Further, you seem to be unaware of testimony to this committee showing beyond a reasonable doubt that the CIA "talking points" were heavily redacted by operatives in the White House who now try to hind behind the astonishingly arrogant and insulting "Dude, it was two years ago."

You may also want to follow the trail of real evidence about the CIA's role in Benghazi, and what they were saying about the four people who were babbling about an incoherent comedy poorly done and not likely even available in Bengahzi...

And you appear to ignore the fact your lying slime of "if you like your plan..." president and his pet State Secretary stuck to that story in the fact of absurdity for over two weeks, in fact Obama had to lie with support from his paid off moderator in the debate to get out of it.

It helps when you know the full story.

As usual with the Obama left, I am not holding my breath, as there has not been a credible citation from that pit of vipers since the 2006 Senate race.

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Cardinal said:

Or maybe it was just confusing as **** what was going on at the time. Read the timeline of the event -- everyone was confused. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Obama didn't cover up anything, let alone cause the tragedy itself. If he can be faulted for anything it's absolutely incompetent public communication after the fact. Obama should have gotten everyone in his administration on the same page, all saying the same thing: "Something bad happened, we don't have the facts yet, but when we do you'll be the first to know."

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everyone was confused in the United States.

The Guardian published the truth the next morning, and they, the BBC, a German outlet and Canada's CBC blew the cover out of the water within days.....

and your president stuck to the "confusion" for two weeks.

Must be one thick headed moron then, when, with the world's largest spy network, one he has bragged "we are best at" he got bested by a Canadian publicly funded and run monolithic, left wing news organization with .00000000000000000000001% of US resources.

Even I don't think the CIA is that incompetent; they blew Solidarity in Poland, missed the Berlin Wall, missed the first attack on the world trade center, and the second, blew Arab spring, are still wondering what's going on in Ukraine....but they are not two weeks and millions of dollars in investigation BEHIND a CBC freelance reporter.

The reason the entire weight of the United States, the most powerful nation with the most police per capita in the world has not identified and captured the perpetrators of this heinous slaying of Americans in service to their country is because the White House cannot afford to have them caught. Not only will their lies be further exposed, but it will show just how powerless the US is now against terrorism abroad. Obama's failure to get these guys is a message to all terrorists "we can kill your people and get away with it with impunity." He tried making friends with rabid dogs and is now paying the inevitable price.

Keep protecting this lying, self involved, sociopath....but you are destroying your country.

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Fearandloathing said:

And Obamacare..

And IRS..

and now, Ukraine.....


In fact, everything. I have challenged for six years for one Obama lemming to admit that Obama EVER made a mistake, and to cite what that was so we could discuss it.

Never had a response, so I would have to say they figure he's the ideological messiah and perfect in every way.

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Well you are Right there......which is why you see them run back to the same threads to act like they have dominated or something. When in reality.....they have been ran out of the threads due to all their lacking credibility, as well as not being able to get around what material has been up and brought out into the open.

I doubt we get much else.....other than the usual Benghazi mocking BS that the Naysayers do.

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MMC said:

Well you are Right there......which is why you see them run back to the same threads to act like they have dominated or something. When in reality.....they have been ran out of the threads due to all their lacking credibility, as well as not being able to get around what material has been up and brought out into the open.

I doubt we get much else.....other than the usual Benghazi mocking BS that the Naysayers do.

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Yes, now that you mention it, there IS a huge pattern there. When the news breaks and you or some other member on top of the situation posts it, there is a distinct lack of involvement from the defenders of the White House.

Then, when a few days have passed and the debate has become so anemic, they come flooding in, protesting the assault on the president etc. In the case of the You Tube video, a separate thread was started on the same topic, but with the heading that the "GOP is desperate...."


This is propaganda. And we all know which tyrants have been propped up by it....Hitler, Stalin, Kim, and all the petty dictators the US so likes to demean and attack......what Obamacrats have not realized is they have seen the enemy....and become him

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Fearandloathing said:

Please supply links and credible support for these assertions.

There may have been one or two such statements, but not all and in fact few.

Hillary Clinton made no such qualifier when she so disgusting shamed the lives lost with her highly politicized comments standing over that coffin.

And Obama made no such statement throughout the campaign.

Further, you seem to be unaware of testimony to this committee showing beyond a reasonable doubt that the CIA "talking points" were heavily redacted by operatives in the White House who now try to hind behind the astonishingly arrogant and insulting "Dude, it was two years ago."

You may also want to follow the trail of real evidence about the CIA's role in Benghazi, and what they were saying about the four people who were babbling about an incoherent comedy poorly done and not likely even available in Bengahzi...

And you appear to ignore the fact your lying slime of "if you like your plan..." president and his pet State Secretary stuck to that story in the fact of absurdity for over two weeks, in fact Obama had to lie with support from his paid off moderator in the debate to get out of it.

It helps when you know the full story.

As usual with the Obama left, I am not holding my breath, as there has not been a credible citation from that pit of vipers since the 2006 Senate race.

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You are the one "unaware" of the evidence. There is not one shred that says that the Administration had anything to do with the talking points. Even Aljazeera's report on the attack blamed the video. As usual with right wing zealots, you depend on Fox news for your "evidence" and ignore the rest.

Though some within the CIA and military have said it was their assessment from the get-go that the Benghazi assault was unrelated to the anti-Islam video, reports at the time and subsequent investigations have confirmed that the video and the protests in Cairo played a role in the attack. The new batch of released emails—the one containing the Rhodes note that has launched a thousand Fox News reports—includes an Al Jazeera report filed the night of the attack. It reads,
Witnesses say an armed mob has attacked the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi and set fire to the building in what they way was a protest at [sic] a film deemed offensive to Islam's Prophet Muhammad.


Just hours earlier on Tuesday, thousands of Egyptian demonstrators apparently angry over the same film—an amateur film produced by expatriate members of Egypt's Christian minority resident in the US—tore down the Stars and Stripes at the US embassy in Cairo and replaced it with an Islamic flag.

How odd that Fox News did not mention this report. Maybe those witnesses were wrong and in the heat of the moment assumed the Benghazi attack was spurred by similar action in Egypt. But this past December, the New York Times, after a comprehensive investigation, reached this conclusion:
Months of investigation...centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault. The attack was led, instead, by fighters who had benefited directly from NATO’s extensive air power and logistics support during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi. And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.

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Why There Is No Cure for the GOP's Benghazi Fever | Mother Jones

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Fearandloathing said:

And what do you offer to base that on?

How popular and with whom?

In fact, the video had had like a hundred and some hits before the White House went ape **** on it.

Please, while denying there's any scandal, it is helpful to stick to the facts. The reason this "non-scandal" is hanging on exactly like Watergate, is that also like Watergate,m every statement from the White Out House is a lie and every post from it's defenders is bull****.

When you start substantiating what you claim, when there are no more revelations, such as the White House alerting You Tube, then I will start to wonder if there really is anything.

So far, Obama and guys like you keep re-enforcing my suspicion that Barrack Hussein Obama is in this up to his little pen and his phone and has blood on his hands. You guys are even worse than the lying Nixon supporters who claimed for months "Watergate is just a Democrat fiction."

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Well obama the king muslim obviously was upset about it.

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Fearandloathing said:

Yes, now that you mention it, there IS a huge pattern there. When the news breaks and you or some other member on top of the situation posts it, there is a distinct lack of involvement from the defenders of the White House.

Then, when a few days have passed and the debate has become so anemic, they come flooding in, protesting the assault on the president etc. In the case of the You Tube video, a separate thread was started on the same topic, but with the heading that the "GOP is desperate...."


This is propaganda. And we all know which tyrants have been propped up by it....Hitler, Stalin, Kim, and all the petty dictators the US so likes to demean and attack......what Obamacrats have not realized is they have seen the enemy....and become him

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Lol that's a fun theory.

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iguanaman said:

You are the one "unaware" of the evidence. There is not one shred that says that the Administration had anything to do with the talking points. Even Aljazeera's report on the attack blamed the video. As usual with right wing zealots, you depend on Fox news for your "evidence" and ignore the rest.




Why There Is No Cure for the GOP's Benghazi Fever | Mother Jones

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Oh, please google "Dude, that was two years ago."

As usual, another boring and unsupported post of bull**** that starts with an insult.

You guys are beyond pathetic now.


How about this, please present your idea of ONE mistake that Obama has made in his mandate. Just one. Please include reasoning as to why, so those of us wh can reason can examine it.

I know it won't happen.....because you guys are so **** scared of a real examination of this walking waste of skin, that you must cling to the idiocy that he's perfect.

The mere fact he was more concerned about his image and You Tube is proof he's a very, very bad president.

The Nero of You Tube....fiddling with social media while his Consulate and staff burned.

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Kobie said:

Lol that's a fun theory.

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every now and then I take you off ignore...

and find a gem like this.

Thank you for that stimulating input and reasoned debate, you contribution to the advancement of knowledge is equal to your incompetent president's ability to tell the truth.

I won't be taking you off ignore any time soon.....

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Kobie said:

Lol that's a fun theory.

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You not only embarrass yourself with these juvenile responses, you embarrass the educational system of your country. Why not demonstrate some pride and actually try to offer some intelligent debate, otherwise why are you here?

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Grant said:

You not only embarrass yourself with these juvenile responses, you embarrass the educational system of your country. Why not demonstrate some pride and actually try to offer some intelligent debate, otherwise why are you here?

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Fearandloathing said:

every now and then I take you off ignore...

and find a gem like this.

Thank you for that stimulating input and reasoned debate, you contribution to the advancement of knowledge is equal to your incompetent president's ability to tell the truth.

I won't be taking you off ignore any time soon.....

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Ah c'mon fellas, give the guy credit. He's managed to add 'that's a fun theory' into the rotation with 'cool f***ing story bro' and 'great contribution'. The depth of his repertoire knows no bounds apparently. :fly:

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Fearandloathing said:

Yes, now that you mention it, there IS a huge pattern there. When the news breaks and you or some other member on top of the situation posts it, there is a distinct lack of involvement from the defenders of the White House.

Then, when a few days have passed and the debate has become so anemic, they come flooding in, protesting the assault on the president etc. In the case of the You Tube video, a separate thread was started on the same topic, but with the heading that the "GOP is desperate...."


This is propaganda. And we all know which tyrants have been propped up by it....Hitler, Stalin, Kim, and all the petty dictators the US so likes to demean and attack......what Obamacrats have not realized is they have seen the enemy....and become him

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Debate Politics .com is like Hitler?

Let me guess, you got that from Glenn Beck.

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ecofarm said:

Debate Politics .com is like Hitler?

Let me guess, you got that from Glenn Beck.

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Looks like eco is one upping Kobie.

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Filthy McNasty said:

Looks like eco is one upping Kobie.

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You're probably just a member of the "debate politics brown shirts", oppressing hetero white males!


haha

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ecofarm said:

You're probably just a member of the "debate politics brown shirts", oppressing hetero white males!


haha

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And debate politics is like Hitler.:doh

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Filthy McNasty said:

And debate politics is like Hitler.:doh

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Sure, and Stalin. It's like a gulag in here!! It's like hetero white males are in a concentration camp!

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Cardinal said:

What I've been disappointed to observe is that Obama has been consistently crap in communicating to the public in the aftermath of just about any crisis. He just...seizes up.

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Distant and aloof is what they are now saying.

And this is new. when he was running and in his early days was eloquent and seemed compassionate. His reaction to the first school shooting was impressive, the Gabby Gifford case, less so and the beginning of a turn around.

I believe it is classic ineptitude and inexperience. Obama is a very, very arrogant man. He does not easily accept input and criticism is beneath contempt. I believe he saw the presidency as a his domain, was not prepared to be questioned by opponents and the media.

And, after the disasters of "if you like your plan..", Benghazi, Syria, IRS, VA, Israels 1967 borders and now Ukraine, he's figured out that anything he says will be examined for fact, and so says little.

I also think his ability to fake compassion for others has waned, he simply does not have the interest nor energy to maintain the facade. And, he doesn't care. He never did, really, but it was all about him and now that he has nothing to run for, he simply doesn't want to anymore

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ecofarm said:

Sure, and Stalin. It's like a gulag in here!! It's like hetero white males are in a concentration camp!

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:beer:

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Filthy McNasty said:

Looks like eco is one upping Kobie.

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Upping?

Eco likes to bully and stalk people. I have no time for him.

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Fearandloathing said:

Upping?

Eco likes to bully and stalk people. I have no time for him.

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From what I see here? Looks like the "after" part of a liquid lunch time to me. :2razz:

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Fearandloathing said:

Upping?

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Oh, please. Tell us all about how debate politics is like Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia. And then tell how it's like hetero white males are in a concentration camp.

Debate politics is so oppressive. It's propaganda!!

:lamo


How do you survive?!

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Filthy McNasty said:

From what I see here? Looks like the "after" part of a liquid lunch time to me. :2razz:

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You're being very generous there, you know that.

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Fearandloathing said:

"....detached, flatfooted, even incompetent."


There have been many using those very words since the congress wars of 2010 -14. The single most incompetent thing this president has done was strutting into the Oval Office and declared his opponents "enemies".

It was not the declaration per ce, but the arrogance and inexperience behind it and the fact he has carried it out. The first priority of a president is the unity of the country, a divided house cannot stand, and he purposefully divided it.

So now you have Canada mad at you, Russia laughing at Washington, Libya in Chaos, Ukraine at war, lost confidence in the IRS, the VA, and growing questions about some rather ugly incidents regarding Benghazi.

Divide and conquer, and America's real enemies see the most divided country since 1969.

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Indeed, with the left marching behind this guy it really makes one wonder what they consider success. And ironically while he and the dems point at republicans for being obstructionist, he can't even get his party behind him, and in fact has his interests at direct odds with his party often.

He's losing the mid terms for his party as we speak. The ACA is getting real. And his track record now must stand on its own. His supporters are going to jump ship.