KCConservative said:Interesting opinions. Have you ever found any evidence that we are in Iraq solely for oil?
Binary_Digit said:I don't think the Iraq war was for oil, Haliburton, OR a democratic Iraq. I think it was a series of mistakes. A bunch of incorrect gut feelings, the fear of being able to prevent another 9/11 yet doing nothing, the pressures on bureaucracies created specifically to find evidence that something which doesn't exist actually does, the misunderstanding of why Muslims so commonly become terrorists against the USA, etc. etc.
But if the chief export of the Middle East were grapes instead of oil, our history in that region would be very different. After WW2, the Allies were concerned about the Soviets annexing Iran for its oil. At one point we had to specifically tell them to remove thier troops from northern Iran, because they were trying to sneak in and claim territory. Throughout the Cold War we were concerned about the Soviet Union's ambitions to acquire that oil, which further entangled us into Middle East history. What a complex web we weave.
Is there something wrong with the desire for oil? It is not unethical. All countries want more energy and need it.
FinnMacCool said:Theres nothing wrong with desiring oil. But there is something wrong with invading a country and, while directly or indirectly, causing the deaths of 30,000 Iraqi civillians and 2,000 dead american soldiers for it.
Inuyasha said:The Democrats are a great disappointment in this war. They could have prevented it but the choose not to. Now they want out. The Democratic party has to get it's sh¡t together before I'll vote for it again. Neither party really goes to the people anymore. Once they are in power it's "lets go crazy and spend and spend and tax and tax." This, along with tons of pork, seems to be the only thing politicians are good for anymore.
Iriemon said:A disappointment to me to, but we had been attacked and everyone wanted to stand united. Who know the extent to which the president had manipulated the intellegence? Who knew in late 2002 he was going to rush to war? Hindsight is wonderful.
As far as the election, my optimism is no higher than yours. But when you have a party that took us from a surplus to $2.4 trillion additional debt in just 5 years, and that got us into a civil war quagmire because of (at least) numerous mistakes, that is enough proof of incompetence for me. I'd try anyone else. It is unlikely they could do worse.
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