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Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.
Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
Iowa (or any state in the Midwest) would make a better independent nation than any of those, because we don't need anything from anybody else. Notice that Iowa was relatively unaffected by the recession.
New York, Texas, and California have extremely elaborate population and economic needs that make them dependent on other regions.
Is Texas planning on breaking off and drifting into space in addition to leaving the country?
Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.
Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
Name a state where you can surf, ski, and visit a vineyard on the same day: Californi-ayeeeeeey.
Iowa (or any state in the Midwest) would make a better independent nation than any of those, because we don't need anything from anybody else. Notice that Iowa was relatively unaffected by the recession.
New York, Texas, and California have extremely elaborate population and economic needs that make them dependent on other regions.
I'm pretty sure you can do this on the big island of Hawaii also.
Mauna Kea (Hawaiian for 'white mountain') is a 13,796' (4205 meter) volcanic mountain whose summit sometimes gets a skiable/boardable mantle of snow. There are no lifts, no grooming, no resort, but a road goes to the summit to serve the dozen or so world class observatories located at the summit. You must have a 4-wheel drive vehicle to get to the summit, which serves as your "lift." Basically, skiers take turns being the driver, who picks up the other skiers at the bottom of the runs and ferries them up to the summit. Conditions at the top are extremely variable. Winter temperatures range from 25 to 40 degrees F (-4 to 4 C), but wind chill and the high altitude can make it seem much colder. Between April and November the weather is milder, with daytime temperatures varying from 30 to 60 degrees F (0 to 15 C)
However, let it be known, what happens in Hawaii is skiing in the same way that setting up a tent in your backyard is camping.
Bull fecesCalifornia could be relatively self-sufficient, if need be. Texas could work, too.
I would love it if we left.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that many of the midwest states import more than they export these days. I don't have any numbers at my fingertips so I could be off, it just sounds like something I remember hearing.
You might be on to something with New York, but I'd argue that both California and Texas have the capability to produce more food than they consume and both have abundant natural & human resources.
Our exports (food) serve as universal currency. It's always in need and people can't produce it at the same levels.
Not nearly enough water. Texas might be able to, but they would have to radically alter (shrink) their livestock industry (which is one of the things that makes them valuable) and become much more vegan-like than they are now.
California's temperate, ocean-side climate allows them to produce foods that are expensive commodities, but that's about all. States that have to regulate water extensively to survive lack the fundamentals of good agriculture.
Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.
Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
Cali. They're the eleventh largest economy on the planet. Maybe Texas as well.
What would a war between California and Texas look like?
LOL Texas would win because they have more lax gun laws. :lol:
What would a war between California and Texas look like?
But California has more military installations.
And I'd argue that even with strict gun laws (in some counties) there are still a lot of firearms in California.
Those installations are run by the federal government. I wonder if they would be torn down before secession, or simply abandoned.
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