The Piss/Pool analogy presumes the piss will spread out across the pool. So how do you explain the "piss" being so concentrated in just certain areas of the US "pool"?Waddy said:
Did you not read this bit:
"Registration can also be hugely beneficial in law enforcement solving crimes that involved the use of a firearm, so in that respect, it will reduce crime a little too by acting both as a deterrent and by helping to convict criminals so they cannot commit further crimes."
Funny that you doubt that they are
Yeah having a city with gun control in a country that does not is like having a no pissing area in a public swimming pool.
How about you pick a COUNTRY, that has control over its borders ?
And how about you pick a developed peer country to the USA, not somewhere in Latin America ?
gboisjo said:
I did read it, somehow I can't get this months massacres out of my head. Canada, Australia or England are all good examples of English speaking countries we can use to compare
Tweaking Registration means almost nothing ..Get rid of guns designed for war ..Watching the Proud Boys walk around like the #sshole in the pic I posted speaks to US insanity.
It's quite touching that you have such faith in the ability of the psychiatric profession to cure crazy people. About the best they sometimes do is prescribe medicine which partially alliviates symptoms if big IF - the patient continues to take them.1. Provide free mental health care to crazy people. If you're likely to buy a gun and kill a dozen people, we'll provide your mental health treatment free of charge. It's the price we're willing to pay to have easily accessible guns.
2. You must get a permit issued to you by a trained psychiatrist certifying that you aren't a threat to yourself or others. You'd have to pay for this yourself.
Gun regulation is perfectly legal. The National Firearms Act of 1932 regulated the hell out of guns and that law has stood for almost a 100 years. It's why it's illegal, restricted is a better term, to own a sawed off shotgun, for example. Or an M16A1.
It says that they have universal healthcare.How about Canada to the north, why do they have so much fewer gun related massacres and gun related deaths than the US.
I mean what does it say about us.
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So do you not vote as a protest to the government requirement to register in order to exercise your right?
Agreed, the question becomes ..how does a country that thinks its so honorable end up electing a POS like Trump. Maybe we're not as great as
we think we are.
If your talking about inner city violence, say it. Massacres are almost all accomplished by white people. Inner city gun violence is mostly black on black, itThe Piss/Pool analogy presumes the piss will spread out across the pool. So how do you explain the "piss" being so concentrated in just certain areas of the US "pool"?
Piss poor analogy, sez I.
Because of a mix of nationalism and racism.
I don't doubt that Germany thought of itself as an honorable country before the rise of Hitler and the Nazis.
Make no mistake, Donald Trump is a Nazi.
Such a petty, dangerous, insecure man child. He should be in jail, he's been committing felonies all of his adult life and getting away with it.gboisjo said:
Agreed, the question becomes ..how does a country that thinks its so honorable end up electing a POS like Trump. Maybe we're not as great as
we think we are.
"Pissing" was the term within the analogy in your post. Now you're upset that I adhered to the terms used within your post. That isn't a surprise at all.If your talking about inner city violence, say it. Massacres are almost all accomplished by white people. Inner city gun violence is mostly black on black, it
doesn't effect you. Your use of the word "piss" speaks to your anger and hostility ..I wouldn't trust you with a gun.
Such a petty, dangerous, insecure man child. He should be in jail,
he's been committing felonies all of his adult life and getting away with it.
When he finally does go down it will be one of the best days in my life.
Hard to see what this fantasy diatribe has to do with the thread topic, even peripherally.I hope (but don't expect) that he will be jailed
That he is a criminal is beyond doubt.
If he is tried and if his trial is televised...lots of people will be taking sick days to watch him go down
IMO if this does happen, the USA should take a leaf out of England's book and commemorate his conviction date by erecting bonfires all over America and an effigy of Trump on top of each one.
Maybe even make it into a public holiday.
why? how is that going to deter criminals?
is there any empirical evidence that this has happened.Makes it easier to solve crimes and thus reduce the potential for gain from crime.
is there any empirical evidence that this has happened.
Do you have data on exactly how the technology lead to an arrest and conviction vs other techniques. Because your article has no such information.A Powerful Database Helps Solve Gun Crimes
"Four years ago, before collecting bullet casings became a widely hailed tool for solving gun crimes, New Jersey state legislators did something radical: They passed a law requiring police to submit guns and casings to a national ballistics database called NIBIN.
...when 19-year-old Brendan Tevlin was shot to death in his car, the police sent the shell casings to the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network, which is administered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. By comparing their markings to those on thousands of other casings in the system, police learned that the gun that shot Tevlin had been used to kill two men outside a Seattle nightclub weeks earlier. Working with Seattle police, they soon arrested a suspect, Ali Muhammad Brown. Brown, who was later convicted, said he had been on a killing spree to protest lives lost in the Middle East because of American foreign policy. Using NIBIN to solve the case quickly may have saved the lives of future victims, police said.
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/08/nibin-contra-costa-crime-lab-gun-violence/
After that, gun evidence started yielding clues regularly. Eighteen months into the new mandate, the New Jersey State Police had increased ballistic leads by 78%."
A Powerful Database Helps Solve Gun Crimes. Only Two States Require Police to Use It.
Four years ago, before collecting bullet casings became a widely hailed tool for solving gun crimes, New Jersey state legislators did something radical: They passed a law requiring police to submit guns and casings to a national ballistics database called NIBIN. Detractors said it would never...www.thetrace.org
Do you have data on exactly how the technology lead to an arrest and conviction vs other techniques. Because your article has no such information.
In fact.. increase "ballistic leads by 78%". Could actually be detrimental if these leads don;t lead anywhere but waste valuable time and resources.
I did. As I pointed out.. it doesn;t provide the information I asked for regarding actual arrests and convictions. So it doesn;t support your contention that.Did you read the webpage ?
For further data, contact the editorial dept.
Makes it easier to solve crimes
Also, it wouldn't be very significant if there weren't many "ballistic leads" to begin with. That's missing from the article as well.Do you have data on exactly how the technology lead to an arrest and conviction vs other techniques. Because your article has no such information.
In fact.. increase "ballistic leads by 78%". Could actually be detrimental if these leads don;t lead anywhere but waste valuable time and resources.
Well..then there is also the problem of the validity and reliability of such testing. With other methods of forensics.. bullet striation match, primer matching.. the forensics have been found to be quite unreliable.Also, it wouldn't be very significant if there weren't many "ballistic leads" to begin with. That's missing from the article as well.
Yeah, it's not a TV show. My daughter tells me that even fingerprints aren't the infallible evidence that one might be led to believe. For one thing, it can be very difficult to lift a useable print.Well..then there is also the problem of the validity and reliability of such testing. With other methods of forensics.. bullet striation match, primer matching.. the forensics have been found to be quite unreliable.
I did. As I pointed out.. it doesn;t provide the information I asked for regarding actual arrests and convictions. So it doesn;t support your contention that.
Yes.. fingerprints are also quite unreliable despite what CSI shows want people to think.Yeah, it's not a TV show. My daughter tells me that even fingerprints aren't the infallible evidence that one might be led to believe. For one thing, it can be very difficult to lift a useable print.
No it doesn;t. 78% increase in BALLISTIC LEADS.. does not give valid evidence of the number of arrests and convictions.I'd say a 78% increased ballistic leads does EXACTLY that.
SEVENTY-EIGHT PER CENT
You just in denial.
No it doesn;t. 78% increase in BALLISTIC LEADS.. does not give valid evidence of the number of arrests and convictions.
In fact.. a 78% of increase in ballistic leads... that essentially went no where.. because they were not VALID leads. and led to conviction. .. would indicate that using the data base actually DECREASED efficiency and effectiveness.
Its just facts and science.
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Appears to be all you read, and then just assumed it supported your point.What's the title of the damn article ?
Did you even read as far as that ?
I read the title and in fact the entire article..which is why I question the title's veracity. Because the information in the article did not support the titles assertion.What's the title of the damn article ?
Did you even read as far as that ?
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