When whites are a minority...

[AmericanPatriot29]

This thread is addressed to American multiculturalists.

Demographic trends show that White's will soon be a minority in the United States.

White Americans will soon have the honor of being the first people in history to voluntarily replace themselves with foreigners. You call it progress, I call it suicide.

So my question is what makes you believe that you will be treated equally once Whites are a minority? What evidence leads you to believe that our new citizens will uphold the United State Constitution and western values? Do you believe Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks and Asians, once they hold power, will carry on your notions of equality and basic human rights? Judging from the current human rights conditions of the nations that these people are emigrating from I am able to have an idea of what direction this country is heading and I will say that I don’t want to be here when we become replaced.

 

[1069]

I seriously doubt whites will ever be "a minority", even if they actually became a minority, demographically speaking: there is a white power structure in place in this country, in case you hadn't noticed; white privilege and systematic racism are still alive and well.
If you're white and you're concerned about it, however, you might want to consider procreating with someone of another race; add some diversity to your gene pool. If everybody did it, soon there would be no "minority", no racial strife. Just a bunch of beige people.
But I guess that's pretty much what you're worried about, huh.

 

[AmericanPatriot29]

I seriously doubt whites will ever be "a minority"

Whites were 69 percent of the population in 2000, and this goes down every year. Where have you been? America accepts 1 million legal immigrants annually, and the white birth rate is in decline while minorities have a growing population. At this rate whites will become a minority in as soon as 20 years and there is nothing to indicate that this will not happen. Whites are already a minority in California, Texas, NY etc. This is not just my own speculation it is projected to happen and they talk about it on the news. Clinton was even celebrating it.

, even if they actually became a minority, demographically speaking: there is a white power structure in place in this country, in case you hadn't noticed; white privilege and systematic racism are still alive and well.

Racism, right. I dont know of a racist country that would voluntarily replace themselves with Mexicans, Blacks, Asians etc. Do you honestly believe racist people would allow for that to happen? Not only that they provide them with racial set asides and social benefits. Either way, if you are white you will find out what its like to live on the other end. If you are not white, you will just tear our country down and turn this nation into the third world country you emigrated from. You will find out how it is to live without the white working class supporting this country.

If you're white and you're concerned about it, however, you might want to consider procreating with someone of another race; add some diversity to your gene pool. If everybody did it, soon there would be no "minority", no racial strife. Just a bunch of beige people.
But I guess that's pretty much what you're worried about, huh.

Just look at the Middle East, Mexico, and Africa. How could I not be worried about it? Heck you dont even need to do that. Just go down to Los Angeles to see what the future of this nation will be like. The only difference is we will collapse economically and this nation will be ridden with crime.

 

[1069]

If you are not white, you will just tear our country down and turn this nation into the third world country you emigrated from.

Eww. Gross.
Somebody squash it.

 

[Southern Belle]

I've wondered though, how come all those countries ARE third world? How come they are not able to prosper as much as the countries run by white people? I'm not saying they CAN'T, it's simply perplexing why they DON'T. That is a fact, as much as bleeding hearts don't want to address it, it IS a fact. I believe that's where most of the concern about our country being overrun. It's not Rascism, we just don't want our country to be overtaken by people who clear as a bell have very worse countries than ours. That is all.

 

[PoliticalActivist]

What is the moderators of this thread when you need them? AmericanPatroit I think your point of your post prove to me you are one who is against Affirmation Action, due to the fact your post contains Racism & Discrimination, and belive me there will NEVER be a Damn day when Whites will be the minority race. It haven't been that way for the past 200 years, and it will never be. Like someone said on this thread racism and Jim Crow's offspring is alive and well here in 2006. What is your point you is trying to get over to everyone on this thread? I am glad that not ALL whites is colored blind, or still wear sheets over their heads at night, and yet after all the meaness whites have done most got the nerves to B***h about being the minority.:bs

 

[1069]

What is the moderators of this thread when you need them? AmericanPatroit I think your point of your post prove to me you are one who is against Affirmation Action, due to the fact your post contains Racism & Discrimination, and belive me there will NEVER be a Damn day when Whites will be the minority race. It haven't been that way for the past 200 years, and it will never be. Like someone said on this thread racism and Jim Crow's offspring is alive and well here in 2006. What is your point you is trying to get over to everyone on this thread? I am glad that not ALL whites is colored blind, or still wear sheets over their heads at night, and yet after all the meaness whites have done most got the nerves to B***h about being the minority.:bs

Actually, Mr. Mich, we should be grateful for open racists like the two who have so far contributed their input on this thread.
It's the other type, the closeted ones, the educated ones who are smart enough to keep their mouths shut about their proclivities, that are in fact far more dangerous and potentially detrimental to our society.

 

[Southern Belle]

Actually, Mr. Mich, we should be grateful for open racists like the two who have so far contributed their input on this thread.
It's the other type, the closeted ones, the educated ones who are smart enough to keep their mouths shut about their proclivities, that are in fact far more dangerous and potentially detrimental to our society.

Excuse me, sir, but what in my post was racsist? The part where I wonder why the majority of third world countries seem to be non-white? I think it would be great if their governments gave them all the freedoms we have and treated them as well as we are treated. I was just saying that it's a fact that bleeding hearts (as in those who cry rascist the moment a subject like this is discussed - ok, maybe bleeding heart was the wrong term, maybe PC slave is more fitting - and no I'm not calling you one of those either, I mean a person who is deathly afraid to even discuss race relations at all) don't even want spoken. Talking about race relations does NOT make you a rascist, just like talking about God does NOT make you a Christian.

Or, was it the fact that I said it wouldn't be a good idea for our country to be run by PEOPLE from a third world country, and it would be quite logical for citizens to have concerns, because there is always a chance that our country could become one as well (say if corrupt people were elected and brought influence from their old government) Did I even mention any races in this sentence? No, I said PEOPLE. If a white Third world country's citizens started emigrating here and were becoming the majority I'd feel the same way.

Which part was it?

 

[1069]

I've wondered though, how come all those countries ARE third world? How come they are not able to prosper as much as the countries run by white people? I'm not saying they CAN'T, it's simply perplexing why they DON'T. That is a fact, as much as bleeding hearts don't want to address it, it IS a fact.

I'm not averse to addressing it.
If you knew anything about global history, then you'd know that many "third world" or developing nations are still in shambles because of a millenium of white conquest, imperialism, colonialism, and exploitation.

 

[Southern Belle]

I'm not averse to addressing it.
If you knew anything about global history, then you'd know that many "third world" or developing nations are still in shambles because of a millenium of white conquest, imperialism, colonialism, and exploitation.

Oh that's right... Oh my lord, my first part must have sounded so sarcastic, but that seriously slipped my mind... I was thinking about now, not back then...:3oops: But does that mean because white nations held them back they don't want to follow America and UK's example? I mean, they see how good we do, and their citizens wish to come here, they import our culture. They should work on fixing their government up with a constitution or something so they can have the American Dream in their own country, if they would die to come here.

 

[Apostle13]

There is no fine line between a racist and a realist. The inferring factor having been real time/life exposure. Having been in law enforcement 25 years I have seen much evidence that could have easily swayed me toward racism had I not been the wiser in my realizing that it almost always comes down to the individual not the color thereof.

 

[1069]

Having been in law enforcement 25 years I have seen much evidence that could have easily swayed me toward racism had I not been the wiser in my realizing that it almost always comes down to the individual not the color thereof.

You are indeed a wise man, then.
Everything, not just race but everything, ultimately comes down to the individual, in my experience. Generalizations and simple-minded stereotypes may make amusing fodder for jokes, but simply do not apply in reality, not when dealing with something as complex as a human being.

 

[CoffeeSaint]

. . . . everybody will be happier. Maybe even white people.

Like this guy, for instance.

This thread is addressed to American multiculturalists.

Demographic trends show that White's will soon be a minority in the United States.

Right, because demographic trends always stay constant over a fifty year time span. Not like anything in the world could change between now and 2050.

White Americans will soon have the honor of being the first people in history to voluntarily replace themselves with foreigners. You call it progress, I call it suicide.

No, Native Americans have that honor. Yay for the Iriquois.
I call it the facts of life, as the idea that this trend is in any way based on an agenda is paranoid in the extreme. Plus, it's just silly.

So my question is what makes you believe that you will be treated equally once Whites are a minority? What evidence leads you to believe that our new citizens will uphold the United State Constitution and western values? Do you believe Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks and Asians, once they hold power, will carry on your notions of equality and basic human rights? Judging from the current human rights conditions of the nations that these people are emigrating from I am able to have an idea of what direction this country is heading and I will say that I don’t want to be here when we become replaced.

Judging from the human rights conditions of the nations that we white folk came from when we emigrated to the US, I think we're pretty safe. Since the Puritans were treasonous heretics fleeing a theocratic monarchy, since the Italians were fleeing from a corrupt government about half a second out of anarchy, since the Irish and Scots were fleeing a thousand years of brutal oppression, since the Russians were fleeing a bloodthirsty dictatorship, since the French were fleeing the horrors of the Revolution which overthrew a brutal dictatorship and replaced it with an even more brutal tyranny -- eh, you get the point.

When people come here and become Americans, they take on our values and our culture. They become the protectors of the culture they have inherited and adopted as their own, and that is why immigrants are often the staunchest supporters of the country's ideals. Just ask the Japanese-American soldiers who fought in WWII. You know, these guys?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Regimental_Combat_Team

So don't worry. All of those people from the scary countries will act just like the thousands and thousands of convicted criminals who were transported here to become our forefathers, and they will make this nation great again, saving it from the stagnation that we white folks have created.

By the way, is that "29" at the end of your screen name your American Patriot Clone series number, or your rank in the Secret Society? Just wondering.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Here's my theory. AmericanPatriot29 shows up here every couple of months to spout irrelevant white nationalist rhetoric because either the stormfront server is slow, the stormfront site is down, or he has spent so much time on the stormfront site that his brain is desperately crying out for a change in scenery. OK, you've had your fill; you can now go back to the place where people actually care what you say.

And btw, you have no evidence that, even if whites became a minority in the U.S., that they wouldn't be treated equally. There, now I've done it; I've made your entire part of the thread irrelevant.

 

[bandaidwoman]

What evidence leads you to believe that our new citizens will uphold the United State Constitution and western values? Do you believe Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks and Asians, once they hold power, will carry on your notions of equality and basic human rights?

What has race got to do with upholding these values? I am Asian and intend to carry on the tradition of equality and basic human rights. That is because foremost I am an American citizen!


Don't muddle the issue of illegal immigration with the wonderful fact that America is a beacon for us legal immigrants who want to uphold and carry on the values that this country stands for.

 

[bandaidwoman]

I've wondered though, how come all those countries ARE third world?.

Since Asians were thrown into the pot of horrible races overtaking this country how are Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and burgeoning super power China third world countries? How this is even relevant is beyond my comprehension.

If you knew anything about global history, then you'd know that many "third world" or developing nations are still in shambles because of a millenium of white conquest, imperialism, colonialism, and exploitation.

I agree

 

[IMGR8]

OMG!

I'm missing the Klan rally!

Where's my sheet and hood?

Can I borrow one from one of you kind hearted purebred all american patriots.

We gotta get rid of all these ingrates and form a perfect arian society.

For those of you who still have living brain tissue please ignore everything above this line...........

I gotta say it is darned good to see that there are still people who beleive in the American dream. Because if the dream were dead people would be running away instead of running towards America. God bless America and keep a place of refuge for those who seek it out. We already have laws in place to prevent "ILLEGAL" immigration we do not enforce. Legal immigrants who begin their lives here by abiding by our laws I have no problems with.

Oh, and by the way, unless you are an American indian we are also immigrants that brutally forced our way into this country. We screwed over the natives so badly it is akin to many of the atrocities our society is appalled by today. Does the trail of tears ring a bell?

 

[bandaidwoman]

... of the nations that these people are emigrating from...

First, don't put the blacks into this catagory.(Which you did) . The majority of blacks were electively imported by white slave traders and they did not voluntarily emigrate here.

Now as for what I see, when I was an inorganic chemist I found the American value of dismal disrespect for mathmatics and sciences an American value I do not hope to pass on to my daughter. (I believe only two Americans were in my graduate course compared to the 3 dozen europeans, asians, African continent blacks etc. ) It is no wonder this country is outsourcing high end development in the sciences and IT industry to countries such as India and China.

When I was senior resident ( we had to make up the intern and resident schedules.) I heard no complaints of the long hours (over 100 per week) from the Mexican, Nigerian, and Asian doctors doing their post graduate work at Emory but lots of whining from the American born doctors ( no matter what the race.) I persnoally think they imported a better work ethic to my team. One of the best months I had as a senior resident was the bone marrow tranplant months where we worked on average from 6 am to midnight (wihtout a day off) and I had a Lebonese intern who graduated from Johns Hopkins med school and a Mexican who graduated from Duke Med. It was the only month I did not have to deal with constant whining despite the horrific work load.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

White Americans will soon have the honor of being the first people in history to voluntarily replace themselves with foreigners.

Replacing themselves? And do they just replace themselves one by one, or do they do it a family at a time? I mean would a white family wake up one day to find out that the mom had replaced herself in the night with a foreigner? Or would the whole family make a plan and replace the whole unit at once?

How does this replacement thing work? Do the white folk go some place else when their replacements arrive? And what do they do while they're there?

What evidence leads you to believe that our new citizens will uphold the United State Constitution and western values?

We've managed so far so good with two centuries of immigrants.
Fwiw & fyi, Mexico is a part of the Western World and has Western values. I don't mean to shock you or anything, but actually, pretty much the entire area covered under the Monroe Doctrine is a part of the Western World. Europe is also Western.

Do you believe Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks and Asians, once they hold power, will carry on your notions of equality and basic human rights?

If they're holding power here, I think they're Americans, and not Mexicans. And, so far, it hasn't been the end of the world now that we've allowed them Chinamen and blacks to vote and hold office.

America might even be strong enough to be able to get away with extending the vote to women.
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Judging from the current human rights conditions of the nations that these people are emigrating from I am able to have an idea of what direction this country is heading and I will say that I don’t want to be here when we become replaced.

When you're replaced, won't you be somewhere else and it'll be your replacement here?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I've wondered though, how come all those countries ARE third world? How come they are not able to prosper as much as the countries run by white people?

IMHO, this is the wrong question to ask. America is very much the exception to the norm rather than a normative benchmark. It seems more appropriate to ask how did the US and the Western world get so far ahead (for the moment)?
Throughout history, 'progress' has not been evenly arrived at nor evenly distributed. Many different parts of the world have had their moment in the limelight as "the most advanced civilization" of the time.

 

[rathi]

Race is such a pathetic concept anyways. I mean "white" really just means that you can't classify them into anything else. A white guy from Italy and white guy from Russia are both white, but don't even have much physical similarities. Most of Latin America is Spanish/Indian. Of course the Spanish themselves were a combination of North African/Native Iberian. The idea of a Latino race is a concept that only came into being a few hundred years ago. And yet its supposed to mean something.


Of course from a genetics concept, race really is crap. Allele frequencies and the amount of intermixing of genetic material makes "race" full of crap. I mean I know a guy that is 1/4 persian, 1/4 native american, 1/4 latino, 1/4 white, and he has blond hair and blue eyes. He is "white", despite having no white genetic or cultural back round. Or this one girl who had grandmothers who were both prostitutes, so she doesn't even know what races she is. Bottom line, race is pure fantasy with some vague physical definitions.

 

[Apostle13]

It seems more appropriate to ask how did the US and the Western world get so far ahead (for the moment)?

I wonder could the answer not be somehow attributed to democracy, diversity, tolerance (though minimal), and religious freedoms...???

 

[1069]

White Americans will soon have the honor of being the first people in history to voluntarily replace themselves with foreigners.

Replacing themselves? And do they just replace themselves one by one, or do they do it a family at a time? I mean would a white family wake up one day to find out that the mom had replaced herself in the night with a foreigner? Or would the whole family make a plan and replace the whole unit at once?

How does this replacement thing work? Do the white folk go some place else when their replacements arrive? And what do they do while they're there?

Good question.
Since the "replacement" will supposedly be "voluntary", it must be somewhere good.
Cancun, perhaps? Playa del Carmen?
My husband and kids need to know where to look for me when they wake up one morning and find, in my stead, a nice pleasant latina woman in my kitchen scrambling up huevos rancheros. :roll:

 

[Apostle13]

Good question.
Since the "replacement" will supposedly be "voluntary", it must be somewhere good.
Cancun, perhaps? Playa del Carmen?
My husband and kids need to know where to look for me when they wake up one morning and find, in my stead, a nice pleasant latina woman in my kitchen scrambling up huevos rancheros. :roll:

lol... But there is the whole "white flight" phenomena that gave birth to suburbia... Now that I (living in suburbs) have blacks three doors down my neighbors are like, "There goes the neighborhood!"
Ironically... 2 days later they bought the farm...
Car crashed.

 

[Southern Belle]

Since Asians were thrown into the pot of horrible races overtaking this country how are Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and burgeoning super power China third world countries? How this is even relevant is beyond my comprehension.



I agree

I'm sorry, I said a lot of Third World countries were non-white, I didn't say all non-whites live in Third World countries. And please don't misunderstand, I'm not against immigration, but another fact is that we allow way too many (mainly because of illegals) and America cannot support everyone in the world, it's just impossible, and irrational. That's why I said maybe they should work on their own governments some, that way they would be happy and wouldn't have to pack up and leave, risking death.

And for the record, my great grandfather was a cherokee and my grandmother is half. Not sure how relevent that is, except to say that my family are not immigrants...