What turned me off to conservativism.

[James D Hill]

I grew up in a conservative household and respect my parents as much as I love them. They laid a great foundation for me. I voted for Reagan in 1980 when I was still living at home. What started turning me off was the fact conservatives think they can legislate morality while pretending they are for freedom. When Reagan stabbed us drug users in the back with his war on drugs and undermined the gains made by labor in this country I realized the right was not for freedom at all and not for the poor and the down and out. In fact the GOP is the party of greed and selfishness to go with their false morality.

If the right changed their view on civil liberties and stopped trying to stick their nose in our personal lives I might be able to meet with them halfway on some fiscal issues but as it stands now with the party swinging even further to the right and increasing their attacks on entitlements I can't see how anyone with half a brain can vote for these regressive dinosaurs.I am glad the country has swung to the left on social issues and has rejected the slash and burn of the fiscal hawks and if the right wants to turn it around they have to change on everything from immagration,fiscal and social issues.

The GOP used to stand for freedom and civil liberties. The GOP used to stand up to big business and reel them in when they needed it. The GOP used to be against big brother sticking its nose in our personal lives. What the hell happened? I don't see what happened to the party of Lincon or Teddy Roosevelt. What happened to progressive thinking in the Gop? Is it gone forever.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

I grew up in a conservative household and respect my parents as much as I love them. They laid a great foundation for me. I voted for Reagan in 1980 when I was still living at home. What started turning me off was the fact conservatives think they can legislate morality while pretending they are for freedom. When Reagan stabbed us drug users in the back with his war on drugs and undermined the gains made by labor in this country I realized the right wing was not for freedom at all and most certenly not for the poor and the down and out. In fact the GOP is the party of greed and selfishness to go with their false morality.

If the right changed their view on civil liberties and stopped trying to stick their nose in our personal lives I might be able to meet them halfway on some fiscal issues but as it stands now with the party swinging even further to the right and increasing their attacks on entitlements I can't see how anyone with half a brain can vote for these regressive dinosaurs.I am glad the country has swung to the left on social issues and has rejected the slash and burn of the fiscal hawks and if the right wants to turn it around they have to change on everything from immagration,fiscal and social issues.

The GOP used to stand for freedom and civil liberties. The GOP used to stand up to big business and reel them in when they needed it. The GOP used to be against big brother sticking its nose in our personal lives. What the hell happened? I don't see what happened to the party of Lincon or Teddy Roosevelt. What happened to progressive thinking in the GOP? Is it gone forever.

Read my new signature. It let's everyone know just how seriously your views should be taken...

 

[James D Hill]

Read my new signature. It let's everyone know just how seriously your views should be taken...

Am I wrong my fake liberal friend?

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Am I wrong my fake liberal friend?

Others will judge that, and you obviously have no idea as to the roots of liberalism. What we have today are mostly Marxists calling themselves anything but that...

 

[James D Hill]

Read my new signature. It let's everyone know just how seriously your views should be taken...

You have to be over the top my friend. Just think of all those over the top metal bands like Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden or King Diamond. Being over the top is what made them great and infamous. Am I gay? No but I am a real liberal unlike your self and gay vote overwhelmingly liberal so they are enemies of my enemies so that makes them friends and if you where a real liberal then they would be your friends too.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

You have to be over the top my friend. Just think of all those over the top metal bands like Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden or King Diamond. Being over the top is what made them great and infamous. Am I gay? No but I am a real liberal unlike your self and gay vote overwhelmingly liberal so they are enemies of my enemies so that makes them friends and if you where a real liberal then they would be your friends too.

And I see you don't care to educate yourself either. I can't fix stupid...

 

[James D Hill]

Others will judge that, and you obviously have no idea as to the roots of liberalism. What we have today are mostly Marxists calling themselves anything but that...

Last time I checked Marxist where on the left too so that makes them liberals. Did you take political science ih school? You should know this.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Last time I checked Marxist where on the left too so that makes them liberals. Did you take political science ih school? You should know this.

I would suggest you Google the term "Classical Liberalism" and see how well you would fit in versus myself...

 

[James D Hill]

And I see you don't care to educate yourself either. I can't fix stupid...

Are you calling all you fellow liberals stupid? Yes liberalism has been taken over by socialist its been that way since the 60's and you know that and still call your self a liberal so that means you are calling yourself stupid too when you call yourself liberal.

 

[James D Hill]

I would suggest you Google the term "Classical Liberalism" and see how well you would fit in versus myself...

Classical liberalism is one who is against the status quo and wants to promote change. That does not include you who defends right wing positions which defends the status quo.

 

[Libertas-Mors]

Want to use drugs freely? How has Obama faired for you?

Look at Rand Paul, he is for releasing non-violent drug offenders and going the states the choice to decriminalize or legalize and tax. Rand was also the ONLY person to vote against the recent ban on synthetic drugs.

 

[calamity]

1. I grew up in a conservative household and respect my parents as much as I love them. They laid a great foundation for me. I voted for Reagan in 1980 when I was still living at home. What started turning me off was the fact conservatives think they can legislate morality while pretending they are for freedom. When Reagan stabbed us drug users in the back with his war on drugs and undermined the gains made by labor in this country I realized the right was not for freedom at all and not for the poor and the down and out. In fact the GOP is the party of greed and selfishness to go with their false morality.

If the right changed their view on civil liberties and stopped trying to stick their nose in our personal lives I might be able to meet with them halfway on some fiscal issues but as it stands now with the party swinging even further to the right and increasing their attacks on entitlements I can't see how anyone with half a brain can vote for these regressive dinosaurs.I am glad the country has swung to the left on social issues and has rejected the slash and burn of the fiscal hawks and if the right wants to turn it around they have to change on everything from immagration,fiscal and social issues.

The GOP used to stand for freedom and civil liberties. The GOP used to stand up to big business and reel them in when they needed it. The GOP used to be against big brother sticking its nose in our personal lives. What the hell happened? I don't see what happened to the party of Lincon or Teddy Roosevelt. What happened to progressive thinking in the Gop? Is it gone forever.

1. Daddy Bush started the War on Drugs, probably because JR was a cokehead.

2. Agreed

3. yep. Dead and Gone. Hopefully as dead and gone as today's version of the party itself.

 

[James D Hill]

Want to use drugs freely? How has Obama faired for you?

Look at Rand Paul, he is for releasing non-violent drug offenders and going the states the choice to decriminalize or legalize and tax. Rand was also the ONLY person to vote against the recent ban on synthetic drugs.

Well we have legalized pot here Wash.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Are you calling all you fellow liberals stupid? Yes liberalism has been taken over by socialist its been that way since the 60's and you know that and still call your self a liberal so that means you are calling yourself stupid too when you call yourself liberal.

I suppose you think appearing to be moronic in your sophistry is helping your argument? As I previously posted, you can call yourself what you want, but it has no real meaning. You see, Classical Liberalism fits my political and economic views better than any other descriptor. Do I agree with all of the original thought? No, but close enough...

 

[SMTA]

Am I wrong my fake liberal friend?

You got a lot of nerve calling someone else fake with your back-stabbing political philosophy!

I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

 

[Libertas-Mors]

Well we have legalized pot here Wash.

That's true but the Fed can still arrest you for it.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Classical liberalism is one who is against the status quo and wants to promote change. That does not include you who defends right wing positions which defends the status quo.

Where the **** did you come up with this?

 

[head of joaquin]

Others will judge that, and you obviously have no idea as to the roots of liberalism. What we have today are mostly Marxists calling themselves anything but that...

Looks like McCarthyism never dies, it just becomes a tea party.

 

[James D Hill]

Where the **** did you come up with this?

Websters.

 

[SMTA]

You have to be over the top my friend. Just think of all those over the top metal bands like Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden or King Diamond. Being over the top is what made them great and infamous. Am I gay? No but I am a real liberal unlike your self and gay vote overwhelmingly liberal so they are enemies of my enemies so that makes them friends and if you where a real liberal then they would be your friends too.

What!? You said that the gay folks were your friends!

Change of heart?

 

[head of joaquin]

Want to use drugs freely? How has Obama faired for you?

Look at Rand Paul, he is for releasing non-violent drug offenders and going the states the choice to decriminalize or legalize and tax. Rand was also the ONLY person to vote against the recent ban on synthetic drugs.

All while going crazy over low flow toilets and trying to get us back on the gold standard. What a guy!

 

[SMTA]

Well we have legalized pot here Wash.

I hear that one can trade weed for computers there.....

 

[SMTA]

Last time I checked Marxist where on the left too so that makes them liberals. Did you take political science ih school? You should know this.

High school?

 

[calamity]

Want to use drugs freely? How has Obama faired for you?

Look at Rand Paul, he is for releasing non-violent drug offenders and going the states the choice to decriminalize or legalize and tax. Rand was also the ONLY person to vote against the recent ban on synthetic drugs.

Obama picked the two judges that ruled correctly on the search and siezure issue last week. Bush JR picked two judges who ruled for the State. Case closed.

 

[SMTA]

Are you calling all you fellow liberals stupid? Yes liberalism has been taken over by socialist its been that way since the 60's and you know that and still call your self a liberal so that means you are calling yourself stupid too when you call yourself liberal.

Look up redundant in the dictionary and it will say to 'see redundant'.