What Trump and Carney discussed over lunch in Washington, according to a senior official (1 Viewer)

[Allan]

Carney hasn't talked about his private discussions with Trump except to confirm he asked Trump to knock off the 51st state stuff.

But someone is talking and now we have a window into the lunch chatter. It's worth noting these two have met before so would be comfortable with each other away from the cameras.

While there were niceties, Carney was clear with Trump in private, as he was in his public statements before the press, that Canada and the U.S. coming together as one country is a non-starter, according to the official, who spoke to CBC News and other reporters travelling with the prime minister on background and with the condition that they not be named.

Carney told reporters he personally asked Trump to stop with the annexationist talk.

The remarks below match up with what others have said - Trump's 51st state stuff is serious.

But the Canadian delegation left the meeting with a clearer understanding that the president really thinks it would be a good idea for Canada to become the 51st state — these are not just comments designed to provoke, the official said.

Looks like Carney got firm on preconditions for trade talks.

The prime minister also relayed to the president over lunch that his tariffs on Canadian goods need to be dismantled if there's going to be a new trading arrangement between the two countries, as both leaders discussed there should be, the official said. Any trade "deal" for Canada must include the U.S. lifting its tariffs.

The rest of the inside scoop including foreign affairs discussion can be found in the article below.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-carney-washington-lunch-1.7528773

 

[multivita-man]

Carney hasn't talked about his private discussions with Trump except to confirm he asked Trump to knock off the 51st state stuff.

But someone is talking and now we have a window into the lunch chatter. It's worth noting these two have met before so would be comfortable with each other away from the cameras.



The remarks below match up with what others have said - Trump's 51st state stuff is serious.



Looks like Carney got firm on preconditions for trade talks.



The rest of the inside scoop including foreign affairs discussion can be found in the article below.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-carney-washington-lunch-1.7528773

MAGA believes it is gearing up for the third world war, and they believe they need land, resources, and control of shipping channels and routes to do that. The parallel that comes to mind isn't necessarily Germany 1933 (although that's definitely a possibility), but it's more like Germany after 1871. To some of the more ideologically hellbent MAGA, Canada represents lebensraum and is a natural extension of Manifest Destiny.

 

[Rexedgar]

It’s mind-boggling how many world leaders are on the public stage with Trump and the contrasts that are revealed…..

 

[multivita-man]

It's situations like this one that sometimes make me think that real arms control isn't reducing the number of WMDs, but instead accepting the reality that it's a genie that's out of the bottle and that the best way to make the world safer is to keep powerful nations honest. Not by allowing the US and Russia to have a 25% reduction of their 5000 (or whatever the number is) nuclear warheads but to have it so that it's all proportional to the size and power of conventional armed forces. Given that the American military is, depending on the metric, anywhere from 20-30 times larger than the Canadian military, Canada should have 20-30 times more WMDs. To keep us honest. Every country should have WMDs. We could keep ourselves safe by saying that all countries that possess WMDs agree to ongoing monitoring and they agree to stop production. That would be real arms control.

America's behavior in 2025 is why North Korea has nuclear weapons and why Iran desperately wants them.