Could you change your avatar CrabCake ?
Do you know what it's like looking at your avatar and being on the left coast and not being able to get any crab cakes ?
A lot of gun control / gun rights debates revolve around constitutional issues. This is fine, because that's ultimately what really matters in the US, but it prevents us from discussing more important issues. I would like to hear people's opinions on what your rights "ought to be" and why, putting the existing constitution aside. Another way of thinking of this would be: if there were no constitution and you were part of the committee tasked with writing one, what would you propose as the government's position on firearms and other weaponry and what is the rationale for that position?
To me it should be a human right to allow one whatever is necessary to defend one's self, family, and property. Now the debate comes down to what constitutes what's necessary. I believe that hand guns up to repeating rifles (non-automatic) and shotguns is more than sufficient to accomplish this task. If it would require more than that then we have a whole other ball of wax to deal with and it would be time for the community to come together.
So, for you it's tied to the right to personal defense. I think that's sensible way to approach it. Sporting uses might also be important to a lot of people, but I suppose the right to practice certain sports is not something that rises to the level of requiring constitutional protection.
You can get crab cakes all day long on the west coast. What are you smoking? Pass it here.
On the op. Everything short of strategic nuclear weapons and some particularly nasty chemical and biologicals.
A lot of gun control / gun rights debates revolve around constitutional issues. This is fine, because that's ultimately what really matters in the US, but it prevents us from discussing more important issues. I would like to hear people's opinions on what your rights "ought to be" and why, putting the existing constitution aside. Another way of thinking of this would be: if there were no constitution and you were part of the committee tasked with writing one, what would you propose as the government's position on firearms and other weaponry and what is the rationale for that position?
The crab cakes on the west coast aren't even close to the crab cakes you get on the east coast.
It's like pizza, I didn't know what a real pizza was until I visited New York.
I should be able to buy and carry it without registration.
Naples is the place for a pizza.
What is "it"?
The more important part of the question is the rationale. Not what right should you have, but why should you have that right?
Post WW ll Naples.
Pizza use to be the food of the poor in Italy. It was the Italian-American GI's during WW ll who turned Italy on to the American style pizza. It was Italian immigrants in America who started putting cheese and toppings on top of pizza during the early 1900's.
Just like the hamburger. Hamburger is German (Hamburg Germany) it was America who decided to put the burger between a bun.
But I digress.
All gun laws passed since FDR became POTUS should be repealed.
Under the U.S. militia laws, any American who doesn't have a military type rifle in their home isn't honorably serving his country. Dereliction of duty of being an American citizen.
It is a weapon.
Ownership is a control on the state and protection of oneself in extremis.
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is clear, as was the intent of the founding fathers.
My rights are and ought to be exactly how the 2A is written.A lot of gun control / gun rights debates revolve around constitutional issues. This is fine, because that's ultimately what really matters in the US, but it prevents us from discussing more important issues. I would like to hear people's opinions on what your rights "ought to be" and why, putting the existing constitution aside. Another way of thinking of this would be: if there were no constitution and you were part of the committee tasked with writing one, what would you propose as the government's position on firearms and other weaponry and what is the rationale for that position?
My rights are and ought to be exactly how the 2A is written.
Why not. Same with the rest of the Bill of Rights. We were not given rights, only to have them taken away.why?
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Why not. Same with the rest of the Bill of Rights. We were not given rights, only to have them taken away.
I did. I responded. The content of the 2A accurately reflects my beliefs. If I was setting up a Constitution I would use that as my guide. The rationale stated directly by the founding fathers was also included in my comment. Can you not see that or are you just itching for a fight?Did you read the post you're responding to?
What is "it"?
The more important part of the question is the rationale. Not what right should you have, but why should you have that right?
I did. I responded. The content of the 2A accurately reflects my beliefs. If I was setting up a Constitution I would use that as my guide. The rationale stated directly by the founding fathers was also included in my comment. Can you not see that or are you just itching for a fight?
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