What sets Canadians apart from Americans (1 Viewer)

[Allan]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...

In this startlingly original vision of Canada, renowned thinker John Ralston Saul argues that Canada is a Métis nation, heavily influenced and shaped by Aboriginal ideas: Egalitarianism, a proper balance between individual and group, and a penchant for negotiation over violence are all Aboriginal values that Canada absorbed.

The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Had the Conservatives won we would be entertained today by a lot of gloating from the American Right. However, what they fail to understand is that by the values of the American Right, our Conservatives would be positively woke in comparison.

I voted Conservative in Ontario and Liberal in this federal election. NO ONE, regardless of their politics was ready to accuse me of being a Nazi or being a victim of the fake media or being a Snowflake (oh wait )

Point being, even had the election been closer, the loser would not have insisted he had been cheated, or called for "investigations" into the results or urged his supporters to storm Parliament.

 

[Allan]

Point being, even had the election been closer, the loser would not have insisted he had been cheated, or called for "investigations" into the results or urged his supporters to storm Parliament

This morning there are no soldiers or barbed wire fences surrounding Parliament. Citizens and tourists can freely walk the grounds and tour the building. They can walk the grounds of Rideau Hall.

 

[Brusan]

Had the Conservatives won we would be entertained today by a lot of gloating from the American Right. However, what they fail to understand is that by the values of the American Right, our Conservatives would be positively woke in comparison.

I voted Conservative in Ontario and Liberal in this federal election. NO ONE, regardless of their politics was ready to accuse me of being a Nazi or being a victim of the fake media or being a Snowflake (oh wait )

Point being, even had the election been closer, the loser would not have insisted he had been cheated, or called for "investigations" into the results or urged his supporters to storm Parliament.

A far cry from the behaviour beneath us. Our last winter in Florida we were gobsmacked when American friends started repudiating long standing friendships by not attending events based upon who else was going to be there.

Our regular weekly Monday golf tourneys became an exercise in futility when some started objecting to the card draw for foursome make-up results. My own Thursday golf foursome of over ten years affiliation with routine after-golf happy hours became a fractured clusterfugg with one guy adamant he wasn't going to partake if so-&-so was going to be there. That childish nonsense got old in a Minnesota minute with two of us simply stating up front we were no longer in the mood to put up with the infantile behaviour and just went on to golf as a twosome with whomever the club put us with at the first "T".

That, along with Trump's bullcrap factored greatly in our decision to put the house and vehicle up for sale and never return.

 

[Peacenik]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...



The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

The USA was like that before Newt Gingrich.

 

[Grand Mal]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...



The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

We have something socially and politically that the US will have a struggle regaining- NORMAL!

 

[Fearandloathing]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...



The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

As much as John Ralston Saul is an annoying asshole, he is right about Canada being an aboriginal nation. BUT not Metis! He has that wrong. It was primarily the Erie peoples who tamed the Europeans along ith their big brothers the Iriquous. It was a matter of survival. Do as they do or perish in the cold! There were no beaver in Europe or elk or moose! Europeans had no idea how to kill a moose. No idea of the warming properties if Beaver....they had to be taught!

Europeans, starting with the French, simply adopted their ways.

The so-called "pot luck" was invented in these times from the Objibwe word "Potlatch" or 'gathering of elders'

Saul also failed to fully reesearch the west, where white-native relations really meshed. It was the birth of Metis people, half white and half indigenous.

 

[Fearandloathing]

The USA was like that before Newt Gingrich.

Yes it was.

I was a long hair on a motor cycle in the late 1960's.

I got pulled over about every three days.

 

[Allan]

As much as John Ralston Saul is an annoying asshole, he is right about Canada being an aboriginal nation. BUT not Metis! He has that wrong. It was primarily the Erie peoples who tamed the Europeans along ith their big brothers the Iriquous. It was a matter of survival. Do as they do or perish in the cold! There were no beaver in Europe or elk or moose! Europeans had no idea how to kill a moose. No idea of the warming properties if Beaver....they had to be taught!

Europeans, starting with the French, simply adopted their ways.

The so-called "pot luck" was invented in these times from the Objibwe word "Potlatch" or 'gathering of elders'

Saul also failed to fully reesearch the west, where white-native relations really meshed. It was the birth of Metis people, half white and half indigenous.

I disagree with both you and Saul. It was the Inuit culture we eventually adopted

 

[Brusan]

Yes it was.

I was a long hair on a motor cycle in the late 1960's.

I got pulled over about every three days.

Haaar! Now that's a trigger a memory moment right there.

I was on leave from HMCS Naden in 64 and rode a Triumph TR6-C 650 across Canada to my home in Aurora Ont. Sections of Roger's Pass were still gravel. A friend from the navy accompanied me as far as Calgary on his BSA 500 Gold Star.

No long hair involved but nevertheless got many once and second overs from various police along the way with an RCMP constable basically arresting me for speeding in Sask. at midnight due to me having no idea the speed I was going with a broken speedo cable. Spent the night in jail (with the barred door left open so I could wander about at will) in Piapot. Shared pizza with the two constables on duty. Got a chit for a local diner breakfast. Went before a judge in the morning whereupon I was fined $30.00. The judge was a former Navy Lt. Commander and was once stationed at Naden. He wanted to know all the goings on and asked about a couple of officers he shared digs with in the Wardroom where I stood many "mids" fire watches. Got two hots and a cot for $30.00 - no complaints from me.

By the time I reached Ontario that poor Triumph desperately needed a full overhaul. Left it with family and flew back to B.C.

GOOD TIMES INDEED!

 

[Grand Mal]

Haaar! Now that's a trigger a memory moment right there.

I was on leave from HMCS Naden in 64 and rode a Triumph TR6-C 650 across Canada to my home in Aurora Ont. Sections of Roger's Pass were still gravel. A friend from the navy accompanied me as far as Calgary on his BSA 500 Gold Star.

No long hair involved but nevertheless got many once and second overs from various police along the way with an RCMP constable basically arresting me for speeding in Sask. at midnight due to me having no idea the speed I was going with a broken speedo cable. Spent the night in jail (with the barred door left open so I could wander about at will) in Piapot. Shared pizza with the two constables on duty. Got a chit for a local diner breakfast. Went before a judge in the morning whereupon I was fined $30.00. The judge was a former Navy Lt. Commander and was once stationed at Naden. He wanted to know all the goings on and asked about a couple of officers he shared digs with in the Wardroom where I stood many "mids" fire watches. Got two hots and a cot for $30.00 - no complaints from me.

By the time I reached Ontario that poor Triumph desperately needed a full overhaul. Left it with family and flew back to B.C.

GOOD TIMES INDEED!

You preceded me by a few years but I learned to ride on Triumph Bonnie's. Still love those bikes. Late '70's I bought a Japanese bike, a 1 litre Kawasaki, and spent two weeks trying to shift gears with the brake pedal!

 

[Allan]

and spent two weeks trying to shift gears with the brake pedal!

 

[devildavid]

The biggest cause for inflaming our politics right now is all due to Trump and his cult. The Republicans Party no longer exists as a serious political party capable of competent governing. I come from a state that has elected competent Republican governors despite being an almost perfectly solid Democratic state in presidential elections. Normal Republicans are an endangered political species here. Trump has pretty much hijacked and ruined the Republican Party as one that acts responsibly and can be taken seriously. Until Trump, it was possible to have reasonable party based political differences and discussions. Trump and our celebrity obsessed culture has ruined that with no end in sight. And yes, we have never truly reconciled our differences due to our very violent tendencies and history. Just compare national anthems and the difference is clear. We celebrate violent actions. You celebrate your country.

 

[Grand Mal]

Honestly, in Scotland I had no problem learning to drive on the left but after a month with that rental car I still couldn't hit the shifter gates reliably with my left hand!
I might be hard-wired, transmission-wise.

 

[Brusan]

Honestly, in Scotland I had no problem learning to drive on the left but after a month with that rental car I still couldn't hit the shifter gates reliably with my left hand!
I might be hard-wired, transmission-wise.

You're triggering 'em all for me. We as DINKS toured our ancestral isles a number of times using the big books of registered B&B's, picked up our rentals at Smith's Manchester. Those "stacked" roundabouts were the most fun a young guy behind the wheel could have short of Mosport.

 

[Allan]

You're triggering 'em all for me. We as DINKS toured our ancestral isles a number of times using the big books of registered B&B's, picked up our rentals at Smith's Manchester. Those "stacked" roundabouts were the most fun a young guy behind the wheel could have short of Mosport.

The world's most complicated roundabout in Swindon, England.

 

[Brusan]

Never encountered that one. Would probably still be on it today!

Roundabouts are actually springing up all over communities in S.W. Ontario now as the safer way to have traffic intersections.

 

[Allan]

Never encountered that one. Would probably still be on it today!

Roundabouts are actually springing up all over communities in S.W. Ontario now as the safer way to have traffic intersections.

One large roundabout surrounded by five smaller ones. You have to remember to drive on the left and shift your bike using the clutch instead of the brake pedal.

You'd be doomed!

 

[Helix]

Don't confuse regular Americans with duped Republican assholes who are pissed off because they couldn't turn off faux for thirty ****ing years.

Shit, my filter is way down. I hope that it doesn't get me in trouble.

 

[Irredentist]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...



The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

Right now there is much rancor and animosity between our two countries. But one day, we will remember that we love each other. We're family, and there's no changing that.

 

[Allan]

Right now there is much rancor and animosity between our two countries. But one day, we will remember that we love each other. We're family, and there's no changing that.

Only Americans are saying that. The trade will go back to something approaching (but not quite) what it was.

But the friendship is done. Territorial aggression is not something that will be forgotten.

 

[Irredentist]

Only Americans are saying that. The trade will go back to something approaching (but not quite) what it was.

But the friendship is done. Territorial aggression is not something that will be forgotten.

There's been no territorial aggression. Mean words don't count. We're in a spat right now, but we'll get over it eventually.

 

[Xilnik]

Last night's election was followed by many Canadian members on this thread.

There was at least one Conservative supporter participating throughout the 220 posts of mature, thoughtful discussion.

There was no animosity toward or from him. No liberal supporters "rubbed in" their win, nor did he express hostility toward the winning side.

Canadian members won't be surprised by this.

It's our culture which couldn't be more different from the acrimonious rancor we see south of the border.

Why are we this way? John Ralston Saul's theory is that it's our history of conciliatory negotiation between our founding groups. We did more talking than shooting for the most part.

Here's a little about his book on the subject...



The CBC did a lot of gabbing last night about how "divided" we are, because...well, click bait.

But our major parties are in fact quite centrist.

Our electorate is as well and last night's result is a repudiation of Poilievre's attempt to drag us into the gutter of malice toward our brothers and sisters.

We all won yesterday. Our culture of cooperation will serve us well in our future relations with the global community as we move past the recent betrayal of our best friend.

And you didn't have Newt Gingrich evolve (devolve) into Fox "News" types which helps.

 

[Allan]

There's been no territorial aggression.

Trump has threatened to redraw the "artificial" border and destroy our economy so we have no choice but be subjugated to 51st state status.

That is in fact an attack on our very sovereignty.

Mean words don't count. We're in a spat right now, but we'll get over it eventually.

Americans will.

 

[Irredentist]

Trump has threatened to redraw the "artificial" border and destroy our economy so we have no choice but be subjugated to 51st state status.

That is in fact an attack on our very sovereignty.



Americans will.

We invaded you guys once already, and you got over it. I'm confident you can get over some mean words.