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What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

Ah, the equal results argument over the equal opportunity argument. Got it.

there are no equal results and there is no equal opportunity - so lets trash and flush those at the same time.
 
there are no equal results and there is no equal opportunity - so lets trash and flush those at the same time.

sound thinking at along with it the idiotic notion that the tax system should be used to remedy either
 
there are no equal results and there is no equal opportunity - so lets trash and flush those at the same time.

I'm glad you now have trashed equal results. I will try to remember that.
 
sound thinking at along with it the idiotic notion that the tax system should be used to remedy either

The problem being that both sides - all sides - want to use the tax system to their own advantage and to advance their own purposes. As one very obvious example, capital gains taxes at much lower rates than income from work pay. Supposedly, since we want investment and consider that a noble goal to encourage, we do so by providing lower tax rates for it.

Are you against that kind of manipulation with the tax system also?
 
sound thinking at along with it the idiotic notion that the tax system should be used to remedy either

I have nothing against attempting to make things more fair in society - I simply do not expect equal results in all things.
 
We the people have that power through the vote to do that, perhaps in a few more hundred years, we will eventually figure that out. :sun

That has already been tried , so we might have to find a differant way.

You do remember the election of 2000 and a little place called Florida?

Maybe this phrase will jog your memory "Stop counting the votes I know who the president is"eace
 

Odd the middle class in Greece wasn't week nor Paris.
The poor and middle class wasn't week in Seattle.
If you trace back history you will find the middle class and poor wasn't week in the 60's either.

However if you track back in history after 1929 a lot of rich were jumping off buildings , in 2008 the rich were in trouble they ask to be bailed out with taxpayer money to save their company, their job and their bonus
Which is week here?

A majority "a huge majority of poor and middle class want jobs with a fair wage to pay taxes and make a living.
A majority of the rich want more tax cuts, more profit, more money.
Who cares more about America???
 
I'll keep this response short. Could you enumerate exactly what you would do to end companies going abroad and how you would bring down unemployment in the U.S.? Thanks.

Thank you.

First I would lower corporate tax I would have some less regulations but not to extreme.

Then I would order at least 50% of all utsourced jobs back to America across the board in all industries.
Those that did not comply would be taxed more on every product entering the U.S. made with cheap foriegn labor.
Just as those who bought foriegn products would be paying a higher tax.

Then I would have a profit line for corporations if the profits went below the line they would be backed by the federal government bailout like a golden parachute, we have that anyway might as well make it work for all people

In this case the corporations would never go below the profit line so they couldn't lose money, the American workers would be working at a reasonable wage not too high not too low, leaving enough to buy American products which would be taxed less than foriegn products.eace
 
Anyone ever heard of equality? Taxing the rich more smacks of pure Socialism, maybe Communism. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

Human rights or slave labor

If you are supporting slave labor you are supporting communism anyway.

Cheap foriegn labor is just that "CHEAP".
 

I would ask a question .

Who's GE'S biggest competitor., I would guess foriegn?
Every American corporation has a foriegn competitor and the foriegn competitors are winning.
The American workers buy from foriegn corporations cause what has American corporations done for them.
GE and many more corporations will be caught up in the same, NO JOB NO SALE deal.eace
 

worry too much about jobs ,not rich.
 
value received should play as big or bigger role than ability to pay

No not value received , money recieved ,which will be a lot less corporations recieve from American consumers without jobs.eace
 

As for GE

Its biggest competitor is depending on what business unit you are looking at. GE's Medical unit would have its biggest competitors based in the US, along with GE Capital. Its industrail units would see most competition based out of Japan or Korea (with China growing). Its appliance business would see currently its highest competition from the US, for the middle market. I dont think GE has high end appliances like those from Korea or Germany.

Overall as 50% of GE's renenues are from GE capital, I would say its biggest competitor is American
 

Ah, taxes well the American government needs taxes, those that have money and jobs pay taxes those that do not have a job do not, do the math.

Now you can call the poor people parasites and call the unemploed lazy.
Bottom line if one does not have money the government can not take money who does that leave?
If you think the boys in D.C. are going to take a salary cut to get more taxes WELL?
 
sound thinking at along with it the idiotic notion that the tax system should be used to remedy either

Odd, the unemployed don't worry about taxes one way or another.eace
 

Strange, at one time did you know that the American auto mussle car's only competitor was in America.
TV'S at one time the only cometitor was in the U.S.
Telephones at one time their only competitor was in America
NEED I GO ON.
In short GE is on thin ice. check the numbers.eace
 
Thank you.

First I would lower corporate tax I would have some less regulations but not to extreme.

Current maximum rate is 35%. What would you make the maximum rate? As for regulations, would you end Sarbanes-Oxley? How about Dodd-Frank?

Then I would order at least 50% of all utsourced jobs back to America across the board in all industries.

Woof! That sounds rather dictatorial.

Those that did not comply would be taxed more on every product entering the U.S. made with cheap foriegn labor.

Oh, so GM and Ford can continue manufacturing cars around the world so long as they don't bring them into the states. Many corporations would not be impacted by that one. Perhaps GM and Ford would for those things that are manufactured in Mexico and Canada.

Just as those who bought foriegn products would be paying a higher tax.

Wow! I can see many items that American purchase have their prices go through the roof.

 
 
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Thanks for providing a defense of the spoiled rich brats, I am sure they are very appreciative! If the working poor and seniors are parasites, why is it the rich are the bloated blood suckers with most of the country's wealth? :sun
 

But that is logical, that will never compute for the far right.
 
it sure works on stuff like excise taxes on firearms and it works fine on SS and Medicare.

It fails miserably as a basis for a national taxation system - and that is by your own admission.

As to the other stuff, I would welcome your data and analysis to see if you have point or not.
 
I see you love tyranny.

:shock::shock:Huh if the richest taxes are raised we are all the sudden were in "tyranny"? Man we really must of been in tyranny in the 1940's then....
 
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welfare socialist is a different creature than hard core socialists

That was not an answer TurtleDude... Please answer the question... If you can, i know it must be really hard to...
 
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