Ideally it would be best to just get more partys, especially ones for people who have principles political views.
However, since the ellectoral systems in America (not just for president) have a much stronger winner-take-all mechanism, it is much harder for smaller partys to get any power.
Even though I don't like the idea of a political party picking their representives based on the percentage of the votes they get (say for the house) then that is the only way to get some third party power.
The whole idea of a constitutency of some countys in a state doesn't really work for that, but the loss of that is still worth more differing views in American politics.
Even though I didn't vote for a major candidate for the presidential ellection, I know that there still needs to be some sort of work INSIDE of the partys to get the mechanisms to allow for third party candidates.
a third party will take decades to grow big enough and even then it will split the conservative vote every time, for the democrats. the libertarians would be better off sticking with the GOP and using it to win themselves some elections. the GOP could use them too.
I'd be more than happy to work within the GOP if I thought for a second they actually cared about the libertarian values. I'm sick of empty lip service and no results. I didn't abandon the Republican Party, the Republican Party abandoned me. And as a result, I won't give them a dime of support, a second of my time volunteering, or my vote. When they put some real action behind their words, then I'll reconsider. Not before then.
Ikari, yours is a legitimate position of course. my approach is much more short-term. I'm not sure I'm willing to take one step backward in hopes of being able to take two steps forward one day.
I completely disagree, the Republicans ran a very moderate candidate of John McCain for president and they also have lost all of their principles in small government. They are completely fine with very classical anti-Republican views in their party.
They ran McCain but they saddled him with Palin so she could bring in the religious right vote. That right there, more than anything, cost him the election.
They ran McCain but they saddled him with Palin so she could bring in the religious right vote. That right there, more than anything, cost him the election.
But hey, never miss a good chance to rip religious people, right Cephus?
Mccain's highest polling numbers happened 1 week after he tapped Palin as his running mate...
But hey, never miss a good chance to rip religious people, right Cephus?
They ran McCain but they saddled him with Palin so she could bring in the religious right vote. That right there, more than anything, cost him the election.
Before anyone realized how insane she was, yes.
and most importantly, she was the vice presidential candidate and therefore she had very little effect on McCain's policies. It still would have been the unprincipled status quo regardless if McCain was ellected or not.
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