What job would you choose?

[bub]

- a stable job where you earn a very correct wage but have to work a lot

- a more relax work where you can earn a lot but without being sure to obtain this job

- something else

?


I'm don't know what to do
I could

- be magistrate (judge or prosecutor). I know that they need many bilingual or trilingual magistrates, and thanks to a law saying that there must be parity (half of women and half of men; 80% of the law students are female = I have a huge advantage) I'm pretty sure to get this job if I want to. But I'd have to work a lot

- be a civil law notary or a huissier*. Could make up to 15,000€/month and not work that much, but the job is awful and it is extremely difficult to get those jobs

- advocate?


( * Bailiff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

 

[rivrrat]

Why do you only pick one to try for? Why not try for both?

 

[bub]

Why do you only pick one to try for? Why not try for both?

It is true that anyway I still have several years to choose, it's only my second year (out of 5).

But I'll have to choose, and I'm trying to get some piece of advice and think about the consequences, as it is an important choice

 

[Thorgasm]

It is true that anyway I still have several years to choose, it's only my second year (out of 5).

But I'll have to choose, and I'm trying to get some piece of advice and think about the consequences, as it is an important choice

Do what is going to make you happy. Your life won't be worth a damn if you make a lot of money doing something you hate.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

--snip-- be magistrate (judge or prosecutor). --snip--

Firstly I wish you luck whatever you choose, be all you can be and enjoy it. What kind of law do you want to practice?

 

[bub]

Firstly I wish you luck whatever you choose, be all you can be and enjoy it. What kind of law do you want to practice?

Thank you!

This year I had a course of "law of obligations", which is not too complex (everything is in the napoleonic code) and quite interresting.

I don't like criminal law too much because the codes are complex and change regularly. It is interesting but a teacher (who is a magistrate) told us that after a few years, he had to stop because he was becoming crazy (when you see pedophily, murders and violence all day long, it's hard to stay motivated!)

As for constitutional law, I liked the course but I don't want to work all my life on a constitution (even if it is often modified)!

I'll ask advocates...

 

[jallman]

- a stable job where you earn a very correct wage but have to work a lot

- a more relax work where you can earn a lot but without being sure to obtain this job

- something else

?


I'm don't know what to do
I could

- be magistrate (judge or prosecutor). I know that they need many bilingual or trilingual magistrates, and thanks to a law saying that there must be parity (half of women and half of men; 80% of the law students are female = I have a huge advantage) I'm pretty sure to get this job if I want to. But I'd have to work a lot

- be a civil law notary or a huissier*. Could make up to 15,000€/month and not work that much, but the job is awful and it is extremely difficult to get those jobs

- advocate?


( * Bailiff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

Go for the one that is going to make you the money. Lofty ideas about doing what makes you happy are all well and good in your twenties but as you age, you realize that your job is what buys you your freedom in the rest of your life. You spend roughly 35 hours a week at work. The rest you spend doing what you damned well want to do. It's easier and more enjoyable when your pockets are lined with coin.

 

[Gipper]

Wrong answer:

Do what is going to make you happy. Your life won't be worth a damn if you make a lot of money doing something you hate.

Right answer:

Go for the one that is going to make you the money. Lofty ideas about doing what makes you happy are all well and good in your twenties but as you age, you realize that your job is what buys you your freedom in the rest of your life.

 

[quatrotritikali]

Which job would bring you more satisfaction? If you would be satisfied with a bit less money, while working a lot, go for it. Keeping yourself busy with work can be rewarding in itself...as it keeps the mind busy and less prone to straying.

If, however, you would like the higher-paying job...you can stash some money away during the times you are working, while at the same time not being constained by work all the time. You'd have more time to enjoy life, and to do more of what you would like to do that interests you...a hobby or other interest perhaps. Also, if this job is harder to obtain, that might be an incentive to grab hold of it, do your best work, and hope you get to keep the job down the road.

Of course, whicever you decide to take, having a job is, in today's volatile world, very valuable. Did that make any sense?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I would always go with the job that offers stability, and since I do not mind working hard, I would choose door number 1.

 

[Caine]

Do what is going to make you happy. Your life won't be worth a damn if you make a lot of money doing something you hate.

Agreed.


I know, I broke my vow of silence, going back now.


...............*cricket cricket*................

 

[bub]

Go for the one that is going to make you the money. Lofty ideas about doing what makes you happy are all well and good in your twenties but as you age, you realize that your job is what buys you your freedom in the rest of your life. You spend roughly 35 hours a week at work. The rest you spend doing what you damned well want to do. It's easier and more enjoyable when your pockets are lined with coin.

lol thanks for you advice :mrgreen:

But one of my teachers said that if you do that kind of job and don't like it,
- you'll suck at doing it
- you'll want to commit suicide after 3 months (since they work 60 or 70 hours/week)

 

[Thorgasm]

lol thanks for you advice :mrgreen:

But one of my teachers said that if you do that kind of job and don't like it,
- you'll suck at doing it
- you'll want to commit suicide after 3 months (since they work 60 or 70 hours/week)

That was my point. If you aren't happy at work, you will bring it home. It will affect your homelife. Only you know what will make you happy and fit your financial needs. I'm not telling you to take the lesser paying job. Just make sure it's something you won't hate doing.

 

[Thorgasm]

Agreed.


I know, I broke my vow of silence, going back now.


...............*cricket cricket*................

I won't tell.

 

[Caine]

Go for the one that is going to make you the money. Lofty ideas about doing what makes you happy are all well and good in your twenties but as you age, you realize that your job is what buys you your freedom in the rest of your life. You spend roughly 35 hours a week at work. The rest you spend doing what you damned well want to do. It's easier and more enjoyable when your pockets are lined with coin.

I disagree.

You DO have to have a job that provides you with enough money to live comfortably and provide for your family.

However, it depends on what makes you happy. Yes, it IS easier to do things to make you happy when you have money, there is no denying that.
However, I don't feel the trade off is worth the effort.

Hating life for 40+ hours a week to have happiness during the rest of the week minus 20-40 hours of sleep (sleep sucks, its such a waste of time).

OR

Enjoying what you do for a job 40+ hours a week and still having happiness during the rest of the week minutes 20-40 hours of boring old sleep.

You have to find that balance.

And while looking for that balance, the stability of the job is going to be key.
You can't get all snug into a job you find enjoyable, making an adequate amount of money to keep yourself happy, only to have the economy, market, project, etc fail and find yourself out of a job.

Job security is important when building a foundation for a family.


And, yes, **** can happen in any job where you can find yourself unemployed, but some jobs are just plainly more secure than others.

I dunno if I explained myself real well.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

--snip-- "law of obligations", which is not too complex (everything is in the napoleonic code) and quite interresting.

I don't like criminal law too much because the codes are complex and change regularly.

--snip--

As for constitutional law, I liked the course --snip--

You have at least decided upon what you don't like and that's important. Napoleonic law / law of obligations is something I haven't come across before - what does that mean?

I agree part of what jallman says regarding taking the best paid job and this allows you to do what you want to do in your free time - I know many artists like this, they take jobs that pay for what they really want to do - except they pack shelves or serve in McDonalds, they don't have high powered, high salary jobs.

I guess you have to find what makes you happy (even though this changes as you get older) - I nearly went into business with a couple of colleagues who are now multi-millionaires when I was younger. I decided to do the one thing I always wanted to first which was to travel and do some voluntary service in the 3rd World before coming back and joining the businesses. I loved the experience and found what I wanted which wasn't money or designing clever packaging and production processes but teaching. I taught wood and metal engineering skills to craftsmen and that's what I now do back in the UK.

Some people are motivated by money and find happiness through that, some people are motivated by happiness and find work that allows that to happen. There's no easy answer for you but I guess if you get the chance when your academic year is over to get some legal experience in the two remaining areas you still like I would do that. It's only by trying it day in day out for a while you get an idea whether you want to spend the rest of your life doing that.

 

[bub]

You have at least decided upon what you don't like and that's important. Napoleonic law / law of obligations is something I haven't come across before - what does that mean?

It's a book where all the laws about property, contracts, responsiblity...are gathered

The Civil Code Index

I agree part of what jallman says regarding taking the best paid job and this allows you to do what you want to do in your free time - I know many artists like this, they take jobs that pay for what they really want to do - except they pack shelves or serve in McDonalds, they don't have high powered, high salary jobs.

that's why I don't want to work 70 hours/week!

I guess you have to find what makes you happy (even though this changes as you get older) - I nearly went into business with a couple of colleagues who are now multi-millionaires when I was younger. I decided to do the one thing I always wanted to first which was to travel and do some voluntary service in the 3rd World before coming back and joining the businesses. I loved the experience and found what I wanted which wasn't money or designing clever packaging and production processes but teaching. I taught wood and metal engineering skills to craftsmen and that's what I now do back in the UK.

yes there are more important things than money. It has to be taken into account too, but I don't want a job with too much pressure.

Before, I thought I could do some politics (I know, it's very ambitious :rofl ) (I also study political sciences) but senators and parliamentarians don't stop campaigning, and all our top politicians are terribly stressed (during the governemental negociations they used not to sleep 3 days on a row :shock: (they used to sleep 20 minutes from time to time in the car while going from the royal palace to the parliament, or between negociations) and all have a pretty bad health (they have heart problems, internal hemoragies...)

 

[jallman]

I disagree.

You DO have to have a job that provides you with enough money to live comfortably and provide for your family.

However, it depends on what makes you happy. Yes, it IS easier to do things to make you happy when you have money, there is no denying that.
However, I don't feel the trade off is worth the effort.

Hating life for 40+ hours a week to have happiness during the rest of the week minus 20-40 hours of sleep (sleep sucks, its such a waste of time).

OR

Enjoying what you do for a job 40+ hours a week and still having happiness during the rest of the week minutes 20-40 hours of boring old sleep.

You have to find that balance.

And while looking for that balance, the stability of the job is going to be key.
You can't get all snug into a job you find enjoyable, making an adequate amount of money to keep yourself happy, only to have the economy, market, project, etc fail and find yourself out of a job.

Job security is important when building a foundation for a family.


And, yes, **** can happen in any job where you can find yourself unemployed, but some jobs are just plainly more secure than others.

I dunno if I explained myself real well.

I guess its just that my job makes me happy only on pay day. I like going to my bank account and seeing a couple thousand dollars being deposited every week. I get the most enjoyment from manipulating that money and turning it into more money. Money makes me happy. Not even spending it makes me as happy as just seeing it pile up and pile up and pile up, hundreds on top of hundreds and then thousands. But I'm one of those people that balances my checkbook daily.

Perhaps I am just one of those bad, materialistic people.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

--snip-- I like -- manipulating that money and turning it into more money. Money makes me happy. Not even spending it makes me as happy as just seeing it pile up and pile up and pile up, hundreds on top of hundreds and then thousands. --snip--

If it makes you happy then congratulations, you have found one of life's little secrets. You remind me of a colleague whose father died last year and left her a multi-millionaire and she never suspected. He lived all his life in the council house his parents had, he never spent any of the money he had earned but invested wisely in property and his engineering company. He wore tatty clothes and his only luxury was his 70's Lamborghini Miura (which I coveted) but he walked everywhere and in later life used his senior citizen free bus pass to get around.

He was happy, I won't deny that - but his daughter is happier still.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

It's a book where all the laws about property, contracts, responsiblity...are gathered

The Civil Code Index

The worst thing is I will now spend all weekend reading up (but I will enjoy it) - thanks for this!

As for politics, do you want to help change people's lives or do you want to get involved as a constitutional lawyer? You could actually go into the civil service too I suppose? Would you consider the EU parliament?

 

[Caine]

If it makes you happy then congratulations, you have found one of life's little secrets. You remind me of a colleague whose father died last year and left her a multi-millionaire and she never suspected. He lived all his life in the council house his parents had, he never spent any of the money he had earned but invested wisely in property and his engineering company. He wore tatty clothes and his only luxury was his 70's Lamborghini Miura (which I coveted) but he walked everywhere and in later life used his senior citizen free bus pass to get around.

He was happy, I won't deny that - but his daughter is happier still.

Materialistic women..... pfffft....
:roll:

 

[Caine]

I guess its just that my job makes me happy only on pay day. I like going to my bank account and seeing a couple thousand dollars being deposited every week. I get the most enjoyment from manipulating that money and turning it into more money. Money makes me happy. Not even spending it makes me as happy as just seeing it pile up and pile up and pile up, hundreds on top of hundreds and then thousands. But I'm one of those people that balances my checkbook daily.

Perhaps I am just one of those bad, materialistic people.

I receive my happiness from simple things, like playing with my son and watching him grow.

I guess your bank account is to you like my son is to me....

We all want to enjoy watching something grow eh?

 

[bub]

The worst thing is I will now spend all weekend reading up (but I will enjoy it) - thanks for this!

As for politics, do you want to help change people's lives or do you want to get involved as a constitutional lawyer? You could actually go into the civil service too I suppose? Would you consider the EU parliament?

lol don't read that!

The good point if I work in the law court, is that it's a nice building:
Law Courts of Brussels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Palais de justice de Bruxelles - Wikipédia

There are no many jobs available as constitutional lawyer (except lecturor!)

As for the EU parliament, well...I know students whose parents work there...and even if it brings a lot of cash, I don't want to look like them :shock: