Unbeknownst
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How do you know all these people want to kill themselves?I'm against wasting tax dollars to help drug addicts who wish to kill themselves.
I'm against wasting tax dollars to help drug addicts who wish to kill themselves.
Anybody who is stupid enough to use drugs is already accepting that risk. Encouraging them in their addiction doesn't help anyone.How do you know all these people want to kill themselves?
Hey....wouldnt that be CRAZY if someday you managed to procreate, and your child developed a drug issue? Laugh riot, eh?
Drug use is a sign of weakness. I'm not particuraly interested in bailing out weak people bent on self destruction. The moral hazard of drug use is always the possibility of dire problems including death. It isn't like people are not warned about the dangers.C'mon man....I realize you're going for shock value, but slow your roll a little. This is something that happens to a lot of peoples kid, almost certainly some of those who are members here included.
Its happened to a classmate of mines kid.
What about people who are put on opioids in the hospital and then develop an addiction as a result?Anybody who is stupid enough to use drugs is already accepting that risk. Encouraging them in their addiction doesn't help anyone.
I have two children and neither uses drugs, not even pot. They were raised correctly.
Great question! The ones described in the news articles seem to be run and funded privately by advocacy groups.How does this facility get funded?
I could be supportive of that.Great question! The ones described in the news articles seem to be run and funded privately by advocacy groups.
If these centers are helping to save lives, I believe it's a great idea that I'm all for.
Some of these places do offer counseling and health care as described in the OP. Even for the ones that don't do treatment, they increase the number of people who go for drug treatment. They also have a very good effect on the communities they're in, lowering OD deaths, transmission rates of infectious disease, and don't increase crime. This is all according to the AMA.I am for trying to save the lives of drug addicts (as I would hope all human beings would be) as many do eventually recover from it and stop using.
Not so sure about these "centers" though as they are described here.
Sounds like a building with a pretty decent sized staff, drug testing facility to check for fentanyl, etc.
Thats a lot of resources that could go toward treatment, stuff like Suboxone etc. Inpatient facilities.
Recovery is going well. My wife figures she can come back home in about two more weeks. Thanks for asking.Hey man, how's Zach doing? Just curious. Recovery going nicely now?
Certainly an adult who starts abusing drugs should know better, but the majority of those who have a substance use disorder started using before age 18 and developed their disorder by age 20. Surely children deserve a bit more compassion?Anybody who is stupid enough to use drugs is already accepting that risk. Encouraging them in their addiction doesn't help anyone.
Recovery is going well. My wife figures she can come back home in about two more weeks. Thanks for asking.
Drug addiction is a health issue, not a personal failure. With fentanyl being added to everything, this is not only a great idea, it should be required for all population centers of a certain size.Some useful information:
According to drugpolicy.org: "Overdose Prevention Centers (OPCs) are vital in the fight against overdose deaths and are proven to stop a fatal overdose. OPCs provide a sanctioned, safe space for people to consume pre-obtained drugs in controlled settings under the supervision of trained staff and with access to sterile consumption equipment and tools to check their supply for the presence of fentanyl. Participants can also receive health care, counseling, and referrals to health and social services, including drug treatment.
They are also called supervised consumption services (SCS), supervised injection facilities (SIFs), and drug consumption rooms (DCRs)."
Scholarly articles:
News articles:
‘It’s saved many lives’: first US overdose prevention centers give safe spaces to people in crisis
Since the opening of the centers for those who struggle with substance abuse, at least 85 overdoses have been reversed without medical attentionwww.theguardian.com
New York City opens nation's first overdose prevention centers
The opening comes after the CDC reported more than 90,000 overdose deaths in the U.S. in 2020. Over 2,000 occurred in New York City alone.www.nbcnews.com
Videos about harm reduction and OPCs:
We had some guys in the Army get addicted after they got hurt and were prescribed opioids for pain management. It happens a lot of different ways.Certainly an adult who starts abusing drugs should know better, but the majority of those who have a substance use disorder started using before age 18 and developed their disorder by age 20. Surely children deserve a bit more compassion?
Some of these places do offer counseling and health care as described in the OP. Even for the ones that don't do treatment, they increase the number of people who go for drug treatment. They also have a very good effect on the communities they're in, lowering OD deaths, transmission rates of infectious disease, and don't increase crime. This is all according to the AMA.
It doesn't encourage drug use anymore than airbags encourage car crashes. It's about saving lives and preventing ODs. Studies have found that opening these centers causes more people to seek treatment."Overdose Prevention Centers (OPCs)"
Is that the euphemism which they are using for legalized shooting galleries now?
Oh the torture inflicted onto language by the lefties.
Anything that encourages drug use would appear to be counter productive, would it not?
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