What Happens to a Soul Between Death and the Future Resurrection?

[bongsaway]

Assertions, and baseless ones at that, is all there is regarding souls or other such religious nonsense.

Catholic school survivor here. I have never witnessed anything I was taught about religion in school, nothing. Beliefs are just not enough for me when it comes to almighty power and all the stories that go along with it and all the saints and holy days of obligation. In my opinion, utter bullshit.

 

[redbeer]

KJV worded it that way.

Did you read the rest of H5315?
Did you read this part?


1. (properly) a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality

2. used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental)

Strong's Hebrew: 5315. נָ֫פֶשׁ (nephesh) -- Soul, life, self, person, heart, creature, mind, living being

Genesis 2
7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.





Man became a "living soul," means he became a living being.
GOD breathed life into him.



Third, Genesis 2:7 tells us that man became a living soul (KJV). The word soul in Hebrew is nephesh, meaning “an animated, breathing, conscious, and living being.”
Man did not become a living soul until God breathed life into him. As a physical, animate, rational, and spiritual being, man is unique among all living things upon the earth.

So, what is the breath of God? It is the life and power of God, given to man to animate him. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach, which means “wind, breath, air, spirit.”
The life of God lives on and on; the immaterial part of man was designed to live eternally. The only question is where will we live?

What is the breath of life? | GotQuestions.org

What is the breath of life? What does it mean that God gave humanity the breath of life?

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That's your opinion.
It's not however, biblical.


I'm not going to waste time going back to what we already discussed before (several times)..................and what was already biblically proven.
The Bible proves you wrong.



DO NOT ADD.

DO NOT REMOVE.

Have a nice day.

The immortal spirit doctrine is adding to scripture, fyi. You are presupposing philosophy into scripture with opinion. We might as well throw out the Commandments of God and the results of breaking them, the wages of sin, the resurrection, etc......for it all makes zero sense with this false doctrine thrown into the mix.

Death......"we are immortal".......Resurrection....."meaningless"........One God means 3 persons......"deep". "You shall not surely die" is alive and well in this false doctrine.

 

[Michael Cole]

It flies up on the roof and you can't get it down. At least that's what the Frisbeeterians believe.

I've seen pictures of that religion.

 

[eman623]

The Spirit of Jesus was with God when He died.


His last words indicate that:



Luke 23:46
Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last.





However, the placement of commas can affect our understanding of a text. For example, in Luke 23, one of the thieves crucified next to Jesus says, “‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’
Jesus answered him, ‘I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise’” (verses 42-43).
Commas help us keep the original phrasing intact. Was Jesus saying, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me . . .” (meaning that “today” is when the thief would be in paradise)?
Or was He saying, “I tell you the truth today, you will be with me . . .” (meaning that “today” is when Jesus was speaking”)?

First, we note that every major Bible translation inserts the comma before the word today.
Thus, the KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV, ESV, and RSV all agree that Jesus was speaking of the time that the thief would enter paradise. The thief would be in paradise with Jesus on that very same day.


Also, Jesus prefaced His response with the phrase, “I tell you the truth” (“Verily I say unto thee” in the KJV). Many scholars have noticed that Jesus uses this as a prefix phrase when He is about to say something that should be listened to with care. Seventy-six times in the New Testament, Jesus uses the phrase. Interestingly, no one but Jesus ever says it. When the Lord says “I tell you the truth,” He is affirming that what He is about to say is worthy of special attention. It was Jesus’ way of saying, “Listen up! What I’m about to say is very important and should be listened to carefully.” We’re too used to hearing the phrase to appreciate the astonishing authority it expresses and the often solemn nature of the announcement that follows. In every one of the 76 times Christ uses this introductory phrase, He simply says it and then makes a startling statement.

It would be strange indeed if, in this one instance, Jesus departed from His normal way of making His signature statement by adding the word today to it. In every case where this sort of introductory phrase is used,
Greek scholars add a punctuation break after the phrase in question and before the rest of the statement. So, the translators have it right. The comma in Luke 23:43 belongs where they put it.
This brings us to another question. If Jesus was buried and rose after three days and then many days later ascended to heaven, how could He have been in paradise with the thief?

After Christ died, it was His body that was buried in the tomb.
However, Jesus’ spirit/soul was not in the tomb. Jesus’ spirit was in the Father’s presence (Luke 23:46; Ephesians 4:8). See more information in our article here.

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What did Jesus mean when He said, “Today you will be with me in paradise”? Where does the comma belong in Luke 23:43?

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His last word said his spirit would be in God's hands, not that he was going to be with God

 

[Gordy327]

Catholic school survivor here. I have never witnessed anything I was taught about religion in school, nothing. Beliefs are just not enough for me when it comes to almighty power and all the stories that go along with it and all the saints and holy days of obligation. In my opinion, utter bullshit.

I concur. Beliefs are just wishful thinking. I suppose some need the emotional/mental crutch.

 

[tosca1]

His last word said his spirit would be in God's hands, not that he was going to be with God

To be in God's hands, is to be with God.


You're holding your child in your hand.
Is your child with you or not?

 

[bongsaway]

I concur. Beliefs are just wishful thinking. I suppose some need the emotional/mental crutch.

That's exactly how I view religion, an emotional crutch which in my opinion leads to folks putting things in god's hands, they can't deal with the emotional stress of whatever their issue happens to be on their own.

 

[Daisy]

It becomes extinct.

Agreed...non-existent because the soul is the life itself...

 

[eman623]

To be in God's hands, is to be with God.


You're holding your child in your hand.
Is your child with you or not?

Which verse is that?

 

[Daisy]

I think we are present with the Lord immediately after death.

2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord

Are we? Not according to the Bible...the resurrection is in the future, occurring "on the last day"...

"Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man." John 3:13

Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” John 11:24

The Bible connects this “last day” with Christ’s Kingdom rule. Paul wrote: “For he [Christ] must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.” (1 Corinthians 15:25, 26)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014004#h=17:0-19:0

 

[Daisy]

JW's move the comma in that sentence after the word 'today', not before. Which makes sense because Jesus did not in fact go to paradise on the day of his death.

Correct...sadly some are not into the Bible making sense...they're into" it's a mystery" BS...

 

[Gordy327]

That's exactly how I view religion, an emotional crutch

And a scam.

which in my opinion leads to folks putting things in god's hands, they can't deal with the emotional stress of whatever their issue happens to be on their own.

In other words, its escapism from reality because some cannot cope.

 

[Daisy]

“Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” Luke 23:46

I entrust my spirit: Jesus here quotes from Ps 31:5, where David is calling on God to guard, or care for, his spirit, or life force. This was a way of saying that he was putting his life in God’s hands. At his death, Jesus entrusted his life force to Jehovah; thus his future life prospects rested entirely with God.

Spirit​

The Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek word pneuʹma, often translated “spirit,” have a number of meanings. All of them refer to that which is invisible to human sight and gives evidence of force in motion. The Hebrew and Greek words are used with reference to (1) wind, (2) the active life-force in earthly creatures, (3) the impelling force that issues from a person’s figurative heart and causes him to say and do things in a certain way, (4) inspired expressions originating from an invisible source, (5) spirit persons, and (6) God’s active force, or holy spirit.—Ex 35:21; Ps 104:29; Mt 12:43; Lu 11:13.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1001077302

 

[Daisy]

Jesus had full trust in His Father's promise of a resurrection...

Yes, to say one is "in God's hands" means being under God's care, protection, and guidance, which is understood as being with God in the sense of a close, supportive relationship. The phrase signifies entrusting oneself and one's circumstances to a higher power, reflecting faith and trust in God's will and presence, rather than being alone or without divine support.

What "in God's hands" means

• Care and Protection:
  It signifies that you are being held, supported, and protected by God, who is actively involved in your life.
  
  
• Entrustment and Surrender:
  The phrase often implies a feeling that one has done all that they can and must now leave the outcome to God, trusting in divine intervention.
  
  
• Divine Guidance:
  Being in God's hands also means being guided by God, walking in time with Him, and not being alone.
  

Why it implies "being with God"

• Presence and Relationship:
  The metaphor of hands is used to illustrate God's closeness and the intimate, personal relationship He has with His followers.
  
  
• Trust and Assurance:
  Knowing you are in God's hands provides peace and assurance, as it reminds one that God is present and active in their life, even during uncertain or difficult times.
  

Biblical context

The Bible frequently uses the imagery of God's hands to represent strength, protection, and power.

Verses like Isaiah 41:10 describe God holding and upholding His people with His victorious right hand, reinforcing the idea of His constant presence and support.

Other passages, such as Psalm 31:15, show that "our times are in Your hand," referring to events and circumstances in our lives being under God's sovereign control.
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[VySky]

Are we? Not according to the Bible...the resurrection is in the future, occurring "on the last day"...

"Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man." John 3:13

Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” John 11:24

The Bible connects this “last day” with Christ’s Kingdom rule. Paul wrote: “For he [Christ] must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.” (1 Corinthians 15:25, 26)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014004#h=17:0-19:0

It’s your soul. Not as a man that ascends.

Luke 23:43
And he said to him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise."

“After Christ died, it was His body that was buried in the tomb. However, Jesus’ spirit/soul was not in the tomb. Jesus’ spirit was in the Father’s presence (Luke 23:46; Ephesians 4:8). See more information in our article here.

As Jesus was hanging on the cross, paying our penalty for sin, He made a promise to a dying, repentant thief. By the grace of God and the power of Christ, that promise was kept. The thief’s sins were washed away,”

What did Jesus mean when He said, “Today you will be with me in paradise”? | GotQuestions.org

What did Jesus mean when He said, “Today you will be with me in paradise”? Where does the comma belong in Luke 23:43?

www.gotquestions.org

 

[Daisy]

It’s your soul. Not as a man that ascends.

That is not what John 3:13 says...

 

[VySky]

That is not what John 3:13 says...

Luke 23:46​

ESVThen Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last.

 

[Sweden]

KJV worded it that way.

Did you read the rest of H5315?
Did you read this part?


1. (properly) a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality

2. used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental)

Strong's Hebrew: 5315. נָ֫פֶשׁ (nephesh) -- Soul, life, self, person, heart, creature, mind, living being

Genesis 2
7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.





Man became a "living soul," means he became a living being.
GOD breathed life into him.



Third, Genesis 2:7 tells us that man became a living soul (KJV). The word soul in Hebrew is nephesh, meaning “an animated, breathing, conscious, and living being.”
Man did not become a living soul until God breathed life into him. As a physical, animate, rational, and spiritual being, man is unique among all living things upon the earth.

So, what is the breath of God? It is the life and power of God, given to man to animate him. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach, which means “wind, breath, air, spirit.”
The life of God lives on and on; the immaterial part of man was designed to live eternally. The only question is where will we live?

What is the breath of life? | GotQuestions.org

What is the breath of life? What does it mean that God gave humanity the breath of life?

www.gotquestions.org

That's your opinion.
It's not however, biblical.


I'm not going to waste time going back to what we already discussed before (several times)..................and what was already biblically proven.
The Bible proves you wrong.



DO NOT ADD.

DO NOT REMOVE.

Have a nice day.

The bible proves nothing except for one thing; that people can and do believe in the absurd if they really want to.

 

[anatta]

"anatta" = no permanent self = no soul
~~
Buddhist philosophy, atta refers to the concept of a permanent, unchanging soul or self, which Buddhism rejects as an illusion through the doctrine of anatta (no-self). While the concept of atta or ātman (soul/self) is central to some Vedic and Brahmanical traditions, the Buddha taught that all phenomena, including the perceived self, are impermanent and subject to conditioned processes, leading to a middle way between a permanent soul and outright annihilation

 

[poppopfox]

This question is very clearly explained in this video.

What Happens to a Soul Between Death and the Future Resurrection?​

Many reincarnations, until the soul finds it's own release.

 

[tosca1]

Agreed...non-existent because the soul is the life itself...

How can something that came from GOD - HIS breath - becomes "extinct?"
If GOD is eternal, His breath is eternal.




That's why Solomon had explained:


Ecclesiastes 12:7
and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.





The body, which is made from dust go back to being dust......................

....................and the life that came from God, goes back to God.




Can't you follow the logic?
The comparison between body and life?

 

[tosca1]

Luke 23:46​

ESVThen Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last.

@Daisy



...............and which Stephen had also cried out as he was dying.
Instead of calling to The Father (as Jesus had done), he called to Christ - which shows, JESUS is also The Father.



Acts 7
59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

 

[tosca1]

That is not what John 3:13 says...

It's being taken out of context.
Here's what it means.

Does John 3:13 mean that no one went to heaven before Jesus?​

In John 3:13 Jesus says to Nicodemus, “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven–the Son of Man.” This verse is somewhat difficult to interpret and is often misunderstood. It is also frequently used by those who want to find contradictions in the Bible.

We must keep the verse in context. In verses 10-12, especially, we see that Jesus is talking about His authority and the validity of His teaching.
Jesus tells Nicodemus that He has been teaching what He knew firsthand: “We speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen” (verse 11).
Then, in verse 13 Jesus explains why He is uniquely qualified to teach of the kingdom of God—namely, because He alone came down from heaven and possesses the knowledge to teach people about heaven.
Jesus alone has seen the Father, and He alone is qualified to declare God and make Him known (John 1:18).

The gist of John 3:13 is this: “None of your earthly teachers can really teach you about heaven, because none of them have actually been there. However, I have been there. In fact, it is My home.
I have come to you from heaven, and I have brought with Me experiential knowledge of that place. My testimony carries weight; I can tell you the truth about salvation.”
The NLT brings out the meaning well: “No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven.”


Jesus was not teaching that no one had ever gone to heaven before. Obviously, the Old Testament saints had gone to heaven (or paradise) when they died (Mark 12:26-27),
and Enoch and Elijah had been taken there without dying (Genesis 5:24; Hebrews 11:5; 2 Kings 2:11).
Rather, He was teaching that, of all rabbis, He had the best credentials. Jesus has direct contact with heaven; He is an expert on the subject.

Does John 3:13 mean that no one went to heaven before Jesus? | GotQuestions.org

Does John 3:13 mean that no one went to heaven before Jesus? didn’t Enoch and Elijah go to heaven before Jesus? What about all the Old Testament believers?

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