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What happens if states can’t regulate A.I.?

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While the GOP’s “big beautiful bill” is now widely recognized as a disgusting abomination, it’s not just because of its savage cuts to the safety net or fiscal irresponsibility. It also has gems like a 10-year prohibition on state regulation of AI, which may have far-reaching consequences.

What happens if states can’t regulate A.I.?
Buried in the House budget bill is a provision about artificial intelligence that, at first, seems to mostly affect big tech companies. It bans state and local governments from regulating any algorithmic system for an entire decade.
Here are three big areas that could be immediately affected:

Automated decision-making in health care: Big hospital systems use algorithms to decide, for example, who gets a kidney. Cigna has faced legal action over claims that it has used an algorithm to automatically deny claims in bulk.

Colorado last year passed a bill that is, so far, the “farthest reaching” in promoting strong governance of A.I. in health care, said Michelle Mello, a professor of law and health policy at Stanford University. Mello acknowledged that the existing patchwork of health care A.I. regulation “is not standardized and it’s not awesome.” But if the tax bill provision halts all efforts completely, “that’s not great, either,” she said.

Surveillance pricing: The practice of using vast amounts of customer datato set prices, sometimes altering them for specific customers — think airlines, hotels and grocery stores — faces mounting scrutiny.

In California, State Assemblyman Chris Ward introduced a bill this year that would prevent businesses from using customer data to make algorithmic decisions that would change prices. Ward told DealBook that he is worried the federal bill might affect his legislation: “I can’t hit the pause button, waiting to see, for a whole other year, if something does or does not apply.”

Kids’ safety on social media: Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York signed a bill last year that aims to limit children’s access to algorithmic feeds on apps like TikTok and Instagram. And a new Florida law that broadly restricts teenagers’ access to social media (and has faced criticism and court challenges) indirectly regulates A.I., too, said Gaia Bernstein, a professor at Seton Hall University School of Law who studies addictive tech and social media.

It turns out this gift to Big Tech (and health insurers and would-be price fixers, etc) isn’t all that popular of an idea.

 
States rights people states rights lol….

If AI cant be regulated artists and writers are ****ing screwed and big tech will try to copyright their farmed content.
 
If Senate Democrats can't get that removed from a reconciliation bill, where it clearly doesn't belong, then they are pretty close to worthless at this point.
 
Who in their right mind wants software to be regulated by politicians, most of whom can't even use email?
 
Who in their right mind wants software to be regulated by politicians, most of whom can't even use email?
Thats right, i need all sorts of illicit worms to hack anyone, federal regulation be damned.

ps..its a lot of hardware too, but then i have absurd expectations ....
 
Thats right, i need all sorts of illicit worms to hack anyone, federal regulation be damned.

Do you believe politicians know enough about technology in general and AI in particular to write good laws about AI?
 
Do you believe politicians know enough about technology in general and AI in particular to write good laws about AI?
I wouldn't expect that of everyone or anyone, why do you create premises so absurd? Is that the expectation, a rep should be an expert on everything they vote upon or create laws on?

This is so infantile, it is no reflection of how the world works.
 
I just wanted you to acknowledge that lobbyists are going to write the laws, in their own favor, of course.
and another set of false premises, how do you keep track of all of this? first it was bad to regulate software, the worm turned and then its a focus on reps should be experts, when that hit a wall its "but the lobbyists!". Do you have a point?
 
and another set of false premises, how do you keep track of all of this? first it was bad to regulate software, the worm turned and then its a focus on reps should be experts, when that hit a wall its "but the lobbyists!". Do you have a point?

It's not my problem if you can't follow a simple argument.
 
Who in their right mind wants software to be regulated by politicians, most of whom can't even use email?
Anyone who isn’t a batshit crazy libertarian of course.
 
Do you believe politicians know enough about technology in general and AI in particular to write good laws about AI?
What specifically is the anarchist libertarian position on this then?
 
States rights people states rights lol….

If AI cant be regulated artists and writers are ****ing screwed and big tech will try to copyright their farmed content.
Yup.

This. It's going to wreck more job industries, all so the incels of the world can make bank and keep financing geriatric politicians and their fascism.
 
Yup.

This. It's going to wreck more job industries, all so the incels of the world can make bank and keep financing geriatric politicians and their fascism.
Its because to them art is only an idea you have in your head and nothing else.
 
Its because to them art is only an idea you have in your head and nothing else.
Pretty much. Listen to how some of these talentless hacks talk about art or music.

"You ever want to create something but not spend the time to do so because you just were too frustrated with practice?" These people are ****ing uncreative leeching pieces of shit that will steal from everyone to make money while jerking themselves off as some sort of genius, and unfrotuatnely in this idol worshiping society, they will absolutely be labeled as such.
 
While the GOP’s “big beautiful bill” is now widely recognized as a disgusting abomination, it’s not just because of its savage cuts to the safety net or fiscal irresponsibility. It also has gems like a 10-year prohibition on state regulation of AI, which may have far-reaching consequences.

What happens if states can’t regulate A.I.?



It turns out this gift to Big Tech (and health insurers and would-be price fixers, etc) isn’t all that popular of an idea.


They're particularly afraid of one state: California. Most states probably aren't fully aware of AI's implications. Maybe New York and Virginia, but not many others. They're worried that CA gets in front of the curve, other states figure out that consumers and citizens actually like what CA's doing, and copy their regs.
 
While the GOP’s “big beautiful bill” is now widely recognized as a disgusting abomination, it’s not just because of its savage cuts to the safety net or fiscal irresponsibility. It also has gems like a 10-year prohibition on state regulation of AI, which may have far-reaching consequences.

What happens if states can’t regulate A.I.?



It turns out this gift to Big Tech (and health insurers and would-be price fixers, etc) isn’t all that popular of an idea.


I know that right now is not the time to recommend trust in your federal goverment, but this is exactly the kind of thing you want to be defined at the federal level.

There needs to be a standardized approach because inter state electronic communication is inevitable. Imagine the chaos if the laws were different across state lines.
 
They're particularly afraid of one state: California. Most states probably aren't fully aware of AI's implications. Maybe New York and Virginia, but not many others. They're worried that CA gets in front of the curve, other states figure out that consumers and citizens actually like what CA's doing, and copy their regs.

Which will be written by AI lobbyists.
 
It’s bad enough that companies have to compensate for international differences like the EU AI Act. Having a patchwork of 50 different laws regulating AI in a single country is an untenable compliance nightmare that would kill AI.
 
Who in their right mind wants software to be regulated by politicians, most of whom can't even use email?

Who in their right minds wants unregulated software?
 
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