FilmFestGuy
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What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty even with all the reported failures?
Well, your post indicates a lack of understanding on how recessions are reported, and macroeconomics in general.
Any economic growth at all indicates non-recession. Therefore, a real GDP growth of 0.1% per quarter would not be a recession, but it would be insufficient to bring the economy back from a near meltdown, not to mention insufficient to even keep up with population growth. Your 'creation' timeline sounds like something cooked up in an Intelligent Design class. . . . .
Ergo, at most Obama is guilty of not quickly resolving the mess brought about by those that preceded him. Given the absolute horror he has been dealt in a fanatically right wing Congress which clearly hates his guts, I don't think any rational person could assess him any guilt at all.
Too many hypotheticals and assumptions, and the bottom line is that NYCC sending people to OWS to participate does not constitute "support" or "backing", in the way that Fox News supported the Tea Party with on-location on-air personalities and endless hours of free nationwide television time, nor in the way Dick Armey (and others) backed the Tea Party with millions of PAC dollars.Considering that ACORN received 10% of their resources from federal sources (wiki) there is some national interest. There is no APPEARANT connection between ACORN and NYCC but IF there were would you agree with using these fed funds to support an organization that was PRESUMABLY supporting OWS? How about some federal funds supporting the Tea Party?
Again, you re-post the same source twice and declare it FACT and then complain about the delusions of others.
You are so loyal to your GOD Rupert Murdoch that you re-post him over and over again as if each time it's a new source and that this is "magical proof" that the story is true.
You are being fed a story and you keep re-spitting it at people like it's true.
Oh, and I took your advice and googled it:
Here are the sources:
Daily Caller (right wing site - who is using the Fox News story as its source)
Examiner.com (right wing site - using the Fox News story as its source)
MyFoxNY (well, this is just obvious...)
Catholic Online (commentary - using the Fox News story as its source)
Gothamist.com (you guessed it - uses the Fox News story as its source)
There is only one story going on here - and it's being repeated ad infinitum by the right-wing blogosphere. This does NOT make multiple sources reporting the story.
This is how the right-wing media works to convince you there is a story though. Take one questionable story with one questionable source and repeat it over and over and over again until people believe it.
Too many hypotheticals and assumptions, and the bottom line is that NYCC sending people to OWS to participate does not constitute "support" or "backing", in the way that Fox News supported the Tea Party with on-location on-air personalities and endless hours of free nationwide television time, nor in the way Dick Armey (and others) backed the Tea Party with millions of PAC dollars.
So apparently this problem with an entitlement mentality just randomly happened at the end of the 70's...and before then everybody worked hard even though the same entitlement system existed?Yep, sure do as I know that inequality in income is self inflicted. What there seems to be in this country is an inequality of effort and an entitlement mentality for people that have nothing invested in a business. I didn't support the bailouts, Obama did just like Bush did. Love how liberals always focus on private sector greed that costs them nothing but ignore public sector greed in the form of liberal greed that keeps people dependent which costs all taxpayers.
Once again your post arrives from outside the sphere of informed reality. The Senate Republicans have filibustered about everything that has came down the Obama pipe, except for the very few occasions that the Democrats had the votes (60) for cloture. Surely this is not news.The so called rightwing Congress has been under the Control of Democrats from January 2007 to January 2011 or didn't you get that news wherever you live? [...]
Considering that ACORN received 10% of their resources from federal sources (wiki) there is some national interest. There is no APPEARANT connection between ACORN and NYCC but IF there were would you agree with using these fed funds to support an organization that was PRESUMABLY supporting OWS? How about some federal funds supporting the Tea Party?
So apparently this problem with an entitlement mentality just randomly happened at the end of the 70's...and before then everybody worked hard even though the same entitlement system existed?
Generally if it's a handful of people that aren't doing as well as the rest I'll usually chalk it up to individual differences in ability/ethic etc. When 99% of the population as a whole has near the same wealth as 1%...it makes me think there may be a structural problem....
I know I can count on you showing me the T.E.A. Party members getting arrested and the police using tear gas to disperse them, or the rapes that have occurred at those rallies.
I no longer have any idea what numbers you are talking about. I suspect that may make two of us.BS? LOL, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Those numbers are what they are and can be seen at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. You obviously have never taken a civics class and ignore that Obama was part of the Congress that created the legislation that generated the results that you want to ignore.
What you seem to believe is that the top 1% always remains the same but it doesn't. People move in and out of that top 1% based upon their own abilities. Many of those in the top 1% are liberals. We live in a country with equal opportunity but you are looking for equal outcome. Wrong country. Cannot believe there are so many like you in that area. What is your solution to the income inequality? OWS serves what purpose?
Once again your post arrives from outside the sphere of informed reality. The Senate Republicans have filibustered about everything that has came down the Obama pipe, except for the very few occasions that the Democrats had the votes (60) for cloture. Surely this is not news.
Please try to find a real argument; repeating common knowledge is very tiring for me, and I imagine all others that have taken the time and civic responsibility to make themselves well-informed.
How the Filibuster Changed and Brought Tyranny of the Minority - US News and World Report
If Fox lists their sources, I'll list mine.Great, list themMultiple sources have said that the Fox article is false.No, you haven't proven that remnants of ACORN aren't involved in OWS with your only argument seems to be that Fox is lying. Who has refuted the Fox article and proven it false?
Ok, how many of those who move in and out of the one percent came from or went to the lower 80%?
If Fox lists their sources, I'll list mine.
Wasn't that obvious?
Once again your post arrives from outside the sphere of informed reality. The Senate Republicans have filibustered about everything that has came down the Obama pipe, except for the very few occasions that the Democrats had the votes (60) for cloture. Surely this is not news.
Please try to find a real argument; repeating common knowledge is very tiring for me, and I imagine all others that have taken the time and civic responsibility to make themselves well-informed.
How the Filibuster Changed and Brought Tyranny of the Minority - US News and World Report
We live in a country with equal opportunity but you are looking for equal outcome
What is your solution to the income inequality? OWS serves what purpose?
No, he did not. Due to the Franken/Coleman election dispute, and Ted Kennedy's illness and subsequent death, he had the 60 votes for a total of about 6 months (in two split segments, Jul. 7, 2009 - Aug. 25, 2009, and Sep. 25, 2009 - Feb. 4, 2010).What a bunch of BS, what did Obama want that he didn't get? He had a filibuster proof Senate during his first year in office prior to Scott Brown winning. [....]
That is not true. My goal is not complete equality relative to wage. I don't think that works. I do think that if wealth is increasing at the top, and stagnant everywhere else...especially in realtion to past trends.....it probably has something to do with a structural problem not that 99% are lazy and 1% are workholics that work and produce 1000%'s the average American.
There are lots of solutions. Nobody has the magic bullet and if they claim they do they are probably lying. it would probably take a lot of things from improving schools for anybody not in a district with million dollar homes to making college affordable etc. OWS serves the purpose so that we're not talking about stupid sh** like Casey Anthony but stuff that actually matters.
Once again you are incorrect. You posted the article from Fox News....I posted the article from a reputable source, [...]
No, he did not. Due to the Franken/Coleman election dispute, and Ted Kennedy's illness and subsequent death, he had the 60 votes for a total of about 6 months (in two split segments, Jul. 7, 2009 - Aug. 25, 2009, and Sep. 25, 2009 - Feb. 4, 2010).
111th United States Congress (Senate summary) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Everything you are posting is wrong. Everything.
Who has lied to you?Which group or individual that supports Occupy Wall Street do you belong to?
Decent people who detest being lied to by rich scoundrels would sum it up for me.
Once again you are incorrect. You posted the article from Fox News....
where do you think they come from. Where did Bill Gates come from, Mark Zuckerberg? Steve Jobs?
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