What Fiorina Needs to Get into the Next Top Tier Debate

[Jack Hays]

Fiorina still needs some more progress to get into the next top ten debate.

2016 Election
[h=2]What Carly Fiorina Needs To Make CNN’s Main Stage Debate[/h] By Harry Enten

 

[MMC]

Fiorina still needs some more progress to get into the next top ten debate.

2016 Election
[h=2]What Carly Fiorina Needs To Make CNN’s Main Stage Debate[/h] By Harry Enten

Mornin JH. :2wave: She will be in.....she is in the 5 or 6 range currently. Plus her popularity keeps growing Nationally now too.

 

[Jack Hays]

Mornin JH. :2wave: She will be in.....she is in the 5 or 6 range currently. Plus her popularity keeps growing Nationally now too.

Point of the article is that she needs more recent polls in the average to reflect her recent gains. Remember 538 is all about the numbers.

 

[MMC]

Point of the article is that she needs more recent polls in the average to reflect her recent gains. Remember 538 is all about the numbers.

Which one isn't she making now?

 

[soot]

Fiorina still needs some more progress to get into the next top ten debate.

She can start by updating her campaign websites to explain where she stands on most, if not all, of the major issues facing America today and explain what, exactly, she would do if elected to make America a better place.

I get that she ran HP in to the ground, I get that she's failed at every stab in to electoral politics she's made previously, I get that she positions herself as a breath of fresh air in Washington, opposed to an entrenched political class enriching and empowering themselves on the backs of the hardworking American people while dragging along a history enriching and empowering herself on the backs of the hardworking American (or at least those she didn't lay off).

But where does she stand on the issues?

Sure, she was a lousy CEO who gutted a great company and is pretty much universally despised as an abysmal leader by all those who worked with and for her, but that doesn't necessarily make her a bad politician.

I'm willing to keep an open mind despite the deck, at this point, being completely stacked against her.

But all she really offers is screed about how she courageously got her ass kicked by Barbara Boxer while also battling cancer and losing her daughter.

She's a tough woman, no doubt, but until I can read a couple quick bullet points on where she stands on major policy issues I've got nothing to judge her on other than her disappointing history.

At this point wouldn't consider voting for her for dog catcher, never mind president.

She's exactly where she belongs in terms of polling and I have no interest seeing her in a debate.

 

[Jack Hays]

Which one isn't she making now?

There have not been enough polls to raise her average.

 

[MMC]

There have not been enough polls to raise her average.

I have her here with Hewitt......As a Matter of fact if you look thru the link. You will see he has been interviewing each GOP Candidate. So he has them down for the record on the Issues.




HH: Over at the Hill tonight – and Drudge has picked this up – “CNN criteria threatens Fiorina’s chance at main debate stage.” I guess you want your supporters to answer the phone and participate in the polls between now and then.

CF: Well, you know, it’s not the polls between now and then that are the issue. CNN at least published one set of rules that said that they were going to average polls from before the August 6th debate, so if all we’re doing is polling between August 6th and the next debate, I’m in good shape, but the set of rules for the first debate sort disadvantaged me because they were national polls which are based on name ID and if CNN and the RNC reached all the way back to the middle of July and averaged polls over that period, that potentially is an issue as well which is unfortunate. Hopefully it won’t be an issue, but – you know – we’re in the top five in virtually every state poll there is now, so....snip~

Carly Fiorina On The Latest Clinton Server Excuses/Lies/Incoherence « The Hugh Hewitt Show

 

[Riveroaks]

Mornin JH. :2wave: She will be in.....she is in the 5 or 6 range currently. Plus her popularity keeps growing Nationally now too.

Yay !!!

Now I will REALLY look forward to the next GOP debate.

Points to look for --

- did Jeb get the coaching he needs to pull up higher in the standings?

- how does Carly look and sound compared with the other 9 ?

- will Kasich try to look younger and more energetic this time?

- will Carson stop telling jokes and start giving intelligent policy answers to the issues?

- will Rubio "win" hands down again?

 

[MMC]

Yay !!!

Now I will REALLY look forward to the next GOP debate.

Points to look for --

- did Jeb get the coaching he needs to pull up higher in the standings?

- how does Carly look and sound compared with the other 9 ?

- will Kasich try to look younger and more energetic this time?

- will Carson stop telling jokes and start giving intelligent policy answers to the issues?

- will Rubio "win" hands down again?

Check out that link with Hewitt, R.O......Hewitt digs into them and he will be one of the people asking a question for this next Debate. He is going with a Foreign Policy Question and something over National Intelligence. Wherein Attention can be focused on Hillary and the full implications of what she has done to the Country.

 

[Riveroaks]

Check out that link with Hewitt, R.O......Hewitt digs into them and he will be one of the people asking a question for this next Debate. He is going with a Foreign Policy Question and something over National Intelligence. Wherein Attention can be focused on Hillary and the full implications of what she has done to the Country.

Everyone knows Hillary screwed up with Benghazi. She will be easy meat for that in the final championship debates. In the meantime I don't see this are relevant to the GOP debates however.

 

[MMC]

Everyone knows Hillary screwed up with Benghazi. She will be easy meat for that in the final championship debates. In the meantime I don't see this are relevant to the GOP debates however.

I think they will find something even more serious than Benghazi. That she and her Team gave up the breaches to the Russians and Chinese. Hence the cover up.

They need to revoke her Security clearance.....now!

 

[Riveroaks]

I think they will find something even more serious than Benghazi. That she and her Team gave up the breaches to the Russians and Chinese. Hence the cover up.

They need to revoke her Security clearance.....now!

Putin seems to have calmed down, as have the Chinese (I can never remember who is running China -- some dark haired tall guy with a fresh haircut -- they all look the same to me and their names all sound the same too).

Benghazi is still fresh on everybody's mind though -- and the surest sign that Hillary will be just another Carter if given The White House.

So Benghazi is much more relevant in my humble opinion.

But then again I am only 1 of 130 million US voters.

 

[Jack Hays]

She can start by updating her campaign websites to explain where she stands on most, if not all, of the major issues facing America today and explain what, exactly, she would do if elected to make America a better place.

I get that she ran HP in to the ground, I get that she's failed at every stab in to electoral politics she's made previously, I get that she positions herself as a breath of fresh air in Washington, opposed to an entrenched political class enriching and empowering themselves on the backs of the hardworking American people while dragging along a history enriching and empowering herself on the backs of the hardworking American (or at least those she didn't lay off).

But where does she stand on the issues?

Sure, she was a lousy CEO who gutted a great company and is pretty much universally despised as an abysmal leader by all those who worked with and for her, but that doesn't necessarily make her a bad politician.

I'm willing to keep an open mind despite the deck, at this point, being completely stacked against her.

But all she really offers is screed about how she courageously got her ass kicked by Barbara Boxer while also battling cancer and losing her daughter.

She's a tough woman, no doubt, but until I can read a couple quick bullet points on where she stands on major policy issues I've got nothing to judge her on other than her disappointing history.

At this point wouldn't consider voting for her for dog catcher, never mind president.

She's exactly where she belongs in terms of polling and I have no interest seeing her in a debate.

I doubt your vote was ever within her reach.

 

[soot]

I doubt your vote was ever within her reach.

Given, as I've said, that she has no real platform and a questionable, at best, history outside of politics I fail to see how anyone's vote would be within her reach.

She's a completely unknown quantity politically and a very well paid failure professionally.

I make no bones about the fact that I don't like what little I see.

But I've also said that if she is more forthcoming about where she stands on the issues, and what she favors as policy, I would be willing to consider her.

What more could you possibly expect from any voter?

 

[Jack Hays]

Given, as I've said, that she has no real platform and a questionable, at best, history outside of politics I fail to see how anyone's vote would be within her reach.

She's a completely unknown quantity politically and a very well paid failure professionally.

I make no bones about the fact that I don't like what little I see.

But I've also said that if she is more forthcoming about where she stands on the issues, and what she favors as policy, I would be willing to consider her.

What more could you possibly expect from any voter?

I don't expect anything.

 

[polgara]

I doubt your vote was ever within her reach.

Happy Friday, Jack. :2wave:

The thing is that she was correct in her business decisions, and HP later adopted her policies. Had she been new at the game of being in charge, it might have been different, but they hired her as CEO knowing her background. Would it have been better if she had let the company go bankrupt due to entrenched thinking, when changes needed to be made - then, as CEO, she would have been blamed for that - but that didn't happen - HP is profitable today. Such is a normal day in the business world, and CEOs aren't always popular! :thumbs: DC should give it a try, IMO!

 

[Jack Hays]

Happy Friday, Jack. :2wave:

The thing is that she was correct in her business decisions, and HP later adopted her policies. Had she been new at the game of being in charge, it might have been different, but they hired her as CEO knowing her background. Would it have been better if she had let the company go bankrupt due to entrenched thinking, when changes needed to be made - then, as CEO, she would have been blamed for that - but that didn't happen - HP is profitable today. Such is a normal day in the business world, and CEOs aren't always popular! :thumbs: DC should give it a try, IMO!

Happy Friday, Polgara.:2wave:

You make good points.:mrgreen:

Leaving the beach and driving back to real life tomorrow.

 

[polgara]

Happy Friday, Polgara.:2wave:

You make good points.:mrgreen:

Leaving the beach and driving back to real life tomorrow.

My sympathies are with you, but the stock market needs you back at work! :thumbs: Vacations are great, but I always wondered where people who live at a favored tourist destination go for their vacations? :mrgreen:

 

[MTAtech]

Everyone knows Hillary screwed up with Benghazi. She will be easy meat for that in the final championship debates. In the meantime I don't see this are relevant to the GOP debates however.

The Benghazi hand has already been played. Counless investigations came up with no wrongdoing.

 

[Riveroaks]

The Benghazi hand has already been played. Counless investigations came up with no wrongdoing.

Fallacy: hasty generalization.

At best your are wishfully thinking.

Dream on.

Feel free to delude yourself.

Back in the Nixon daze what you just said was a common comment as well -- right up to the time the roof fell in on Tricky Dick.

 

[MTAtech]

The Benghazi hand has already been played. Counless investigations came up with no wrongdoing.

Fallacy: hasty generalization.

At best your are wishfully thinking.

Dream on.

Feel free to delude yourself.

Back in the Nixon daze what you just said was a common comment as well -- right up to the time the roof fell in on Tricky Dick.

If you disagree, please feel free to post the incriminating information all of those investigations uncovered.

Here is my 'fallacy:'

House Intelligence Committee investigation debunks many Benghazi theories

WASHINGTON — A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.

Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies, the investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria.

The only thing that I am deluded by is the facts -- unlike you.

 

[MMC]

If you disagree, please feel free to post the incriminating information all of those investigations uncovered.

Here is my 'fallacy:'



The only thing that I am deluded by is the facts -- unlike you.

Oh are you still using that outdated version? That could explain why you haven't been able to keep up on Benghazi.